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Posted on 11/18/10 at 10:48 am to Alahunter
Posted on 11/18/10 at 10:48 am to Alahunter
It definitely makes me feel better about what Slive was doing if this is true. I've always thought he was a man of integrity. That's why this whole issue was so puzzling to me. It didn't mesh with what I've seen from him in the past. This makes perfect sense to me and I hope it's true.
quote:The perfect storm. You just can't make stuff like this up.
It sounds, like Alabama's fast rise with Saban, was at the worst possible time for Auburn.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 10:55 am to tuck
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The perfect storm. You just can't make stuff like this up.
Orrrrr... can we?

Posted on 11/18/10 at 10:57 am to tuck
Its desperation on the surface by auburn, but honestly its more than that. its ingrained corruption that has been allowed to go on for a long long time. The fact that Lowder and his businesses have literally controlled every aspect of Auburn University for so long is quite damning.
I'm sorry for the good people who are honest and love Auburn for what they think it is and should be. They deserve better. Unfortunately, it will take a complete tearing down and rebuilding from the top all the way down to gain back integrity and right standing.
I'm sorry for the good people who are honest and love Auburn for what they think it is and should be. They deserve better. Unfortunately, it will take a complete tearing down and rebuilding from the top all the way down to gain back integrity and right standing.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 11:03 am to lud0
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• This will be revealed by the end of the week.
always....
a ticking time bomb that never goes off.
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He also said that the story about AU players going to Victoryland and hitting rigged slots
pretty smart really, no Cam and they could get away with that all day.
This post was edited on 11/18/10 at 11:06 am
Posted on 11/18/10 at 11:07 am to WelcomeToDeathValley
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I was told to expect all the information to be made public once the indictments are handed down.
Man, I would pay $200,00 to know when that will happen or a general time frame.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 11:11 am to WelcomeToDeathValley
I still think this will be a long, wild ride before it ends.
I told friends when I saw that the FBI was involved that it will take some time for all of this to come to light, but when it does it will be a bombshell. I didn't know anything, but rest assured if the Feds are involved it's BIG.
Also, that's why all you hear are various rumors and such. The Feds will make things stay pretty hush-hush until indictments fall.
I think both the SEC and NCAA have no choice but to take it's time if any of this is tied to the FBI's case. That's why I expect Cam will keep playing unless AU decides to sit him.
I told friends when I saw that the FBI was involved that it will take some time for all of this to come to light, but when it does it will be a bombshell. I didn't know anything, but rest assured if the Feds are involved it's BIG.
Also, that's why all you hear are various rumors and such. The Feds will make things stay pretty hush-hush until indictments fall.
I think both the SEC and NCAA have no choice but to take it's time if any of this is tied to the FBI's case. That's why I expect Cam will keep playing unless AU decides to sit him.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 11:18 am to WelcomeToDeathValley
What's teh legal age to gamble in Alabama at places like Victory land?
Posted on 11/18/10 at 11:18 am to ROUSTER
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I think both the SEC and NCAA have no choice but to take it's time if any of this is tied to the FBI's case. That's why I expect Cam will keep playing unless AU decides to sit him.
exactly. And they won't sit him. This investigation will go into next year easily. The NCAA will take it's time and do a thorough investigation, they always have. I can't recall a single investigation that went quickly.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 11:18 am to ROUSTER
Hey y'all long time lurker, first time posting here at td. Just spent two days reading this monstrosity of epicness that is this thread so I had to join and post in here so I can say I was there. Burned a lot o time at work reading this. Well done everyone. This will make one hell of a book and movie when it's all said and done. A separate thread should be made for suggestions on what celebs will play the roles of all these sketchy characters.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 11:19 am to Tiger Ryno
21. Although I gambled at the Bham race course when I was 19, without ever being carded. 

Posted on 11/18/10 at 11:21 am to WelcomeToDeathValley
quote:The arraignment is tomorrow and more indictments are coming.
always....
a ticking time bomb that never goes off.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 11:23 am to Alahunter
Well the mere fact that if players were going to gamble at all at Victory land that is illegal since most of them are underage.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 12:19 pm to Tiger Ryno
I just want to thank everyone here for this thread! I've been reading it for three days and finally got approved to come on board.
So for my first post, THANKS!!!
So for my first post, THANKS!!!
Posted on 11/18/10 at 12:20 pm to Tiger Ryno
This whole thing is just unreal WOW. And the craziest thing is Born hinted at this. The only thing missing now is prostitution and the story is complete.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 12:21 pm to Tiger Ryno
if the slots are rigged specifically for them I doubt its an issue for them to enter the casino, risky if the GC shows up randomly I guess.
The man in charge is aware of whats going on obviously, as im sure all the pit boss's etc.
that or an older player just does it for them.
Either way its not a bad idea
The man in charge is aware of whats going on obviously, as im sure all the pit boss's etc.
that or an older player just does it for them.
Either way its not a bad idea
This post was edited on 11/18/10 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 11/18/10 at 12:22 pm to WelcomeToDeathValley
Or the slots were rigged for parents visiting players.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 12:39 pm to MyNadsitch
Where is TTsTowel,AuburnCPA I think they need to be here
Rocket and Dmitch where are you

Rocket and Dmitch where are you

Posted on 11/18/10 at 2:23 pm to tuck
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tuck
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I was also told the reason Slive sat on the story is because the Feds made him. They were afraid if news leaked about Cam and illegal payments, that the people they were listening to would know their phones were tapped. I was told to expect all the information to be made public once the indictments are handed down.
I asked these questions yesterday on Tuna's new thread and did not recieve any info on them and hopping that maybe someone can answer them as close as possible if there is a question.
My question to you or to anyone who can answer my question;
How much of this did Mike Slive know last Saturday when Auburn made the decision to play Cam Newton and knowing that He had the powers to call Newton Ineligible to play?
A follow up;
If so can Auburn get out from under this to a lesser extent by Auburn saying then with Mike Slive being our Commissioner then can Auburn say that he should have told them that more was known and tell them for the good of the University that I am going to make you sit him and lay to some extent some of the blame on Mike Slive and the SEC Office?
All I am doing is asking that doesn't Mike Slive have the responsibility to do what is best for the University and the Conference and that by making him ineligible and Newton having to sit does exactly that? Isn't that in the SEC Bylaws?
Might not be up to yall yet but from what I have read all this will make Auburn a Community College instead of a 4 year University. There in a nutshell goes the Auburn Tigers/War Eagles/Plainsmen as we know them. Does anyone know who we can get to replace them next year so that we will not be a game shy on our schedules.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 2:30 pm to CaseyMc2
quote:Who knows...It doesn't really matter IMO. IF he was told to keep quiet because of an ongoing investigation, he'd probably do it no matter how much he knew. FBI investigation >>> football. If he was ineligible, so be it.
How much of this did Mike Slive know last Saturday when Auburn made the decision to play Cam Newton and knowing that He had the powers to call Newton Ineligible to play?
Posted on 11/18/10 at 3:04 pm to tuck
This is what he has to follow according to the Bylaws he has pledged to uphold plus the link to all the Bylaws but, this is the main one I copied and posted.
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[quote]4.4.2 Authority, Duties and Responsibilities.
(a) The Commissioner shall be charged with the duty of administering and enforcing the legislation of the Conference, and shall be vested with broad discretionary authority to carry out the duties of the office, including the assessment of penalties outlined in Article 4.4.3. Subject only to the review procedures established therein, the Commissioner shall have the duty to inspect, investigate and determine violations, and the authority to impose penalties and sanctions against member institutions, including their athletic staff members and their student-athletes, for practices and conduct which violate the spirit, as well as the letter of the Conference rules and regulations;[/quote]
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[quote]4.4.2 Authority, Duties and Responsibilities.
(a) The Commissioner shall be charged with the duty of administering and enforcing the legislation of the Conference, and shall be vested with broad discretionary authority to carry out the duties of the office, including the assessment of penalties outlined in Article 4.4.3. Subject only to the review procedures established therein, the Commissioner shall have the duty to inspect, investigate and determine violations, and the authority to impose penalties and sanctions against member institutions, including their athletic staff members and their student-athletes, for practices and conduct which violate the spirit, as well as the letter of the Conference rules and regulations;[/quote]
This post was edited on 11/18/10 at 5:38 pm
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