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Posted on 7/18/22 at 6:24 pm to
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 6:24 pm to
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No, they didn’t.

I don’t know how you breathe without assistance sometimes.


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USC will also forfeit ten scholarships annually from 2011-2013, vacate 14 victories to include the championship game, and be placed on four years of probation, which comes with a two year post-season ban.

Cult Theme-"Never let facts get in your way".
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Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 6:34 pm to
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Tuscaloosa dont argue with this idiot , he thinks AU can claim 2004 but would whine like a bitch if we claimed 1966(which we dont even though its a valid claim). Hes typical of the auburn cult , fambly, clesi clan, whatever fits... He ll say anything to diminish what saban and the program has accomplished.




I could see 1966 long before 1941 or 1973.
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 6:41 pm to
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USC will also forfeit ten scholarships annually from 2011-2013, vacate 14 victories to include the championship game, and be placed on four years of probation, which comes with a two year post-season ban. Cult Theme-"Never let facts get in your way".


Do you not understand the difference between vacating a win and forfeiting?

Do you believe those two things are the same?

USC was undefeated in 2004.
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 6:45 pm to
bullshite, you only vacate wins if you are forced to forfeit the games. Ask Gene Stallings.

USC had their ducks slapped because of the professional players on the team. The did not stare down the barrel of a gun"
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 6:48 pm to
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Harsin's replacement might be the man.


Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 6:53 pm to
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bullshite, you only vacate wins if you are forced to forfeit the games. Ask Gene Stallings.


Uhhh…

I’m not sure if you’re serious, but I screen shot it just in case.

What is USC’s official record from 2004?
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 6:55 pm to
The NCAA allows each school to list any record they want. What was Gene Stallings official record at Bama according to Bama? We know what the NCAA claims.

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Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:02 pm to
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The NCAA allows each school to list any record they want. What was Gene Stallings official record at Bama according to Bama? We know what the NCAA claims.


Gene Stallings’ 1993 Bama team forfeited games. 2004 USC did not. They were vacated. Ole Miss’ 2011-2014 & 2016 squads vacated all of those wins, too, for example. They were not forfeited.
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:07 pm to
Only difference is one is agreed to and the other is challenged. USC agreed to vacate the two games in 2004 and 12 in 2005 while Alabama refused to vacate those game so the NCAA listed them as forfeits. All are just semantics, but are equal.
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:07 pm to
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USC will also forfeit ten scholarships annually from 2011-2013, vacate 14 victories to include the championship game, and be placed on four years of probation, which comes with a two year post-season ban.

Cult Theme-"Never let facts get in your way".




There is a difference between vacating and forfeiting. If you vacate the win, it means there was no winner. If you forfeit the game, then the other team is declared the winner.

As such, if they had forfeited the Championship game, Oklahoma would have been declared the winner. But since it was vacated, Oklahoma was not declared the winner.

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Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:10 pm to
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Only difference is one is agreed to and the other is challenged. USC agreed to vacate the two games in 2004 and 12 in 2005 while Alabama refused to vacate those game so the NCAA listed them as forfeits. All are just semantics, but are equal.


No, that’s not how it works. At all, actually.
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:11 pm to
No, has to be With cooperation or for you Bammers, a plea bargain. Bama and Stallings thought the charges were too strong and didn't agree to the penalty. They appealed those loses.
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Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:22 pm to
Forfeited games are not credited as wins for the other team. Those scores stay the same for the other team. Just how the NCAA does business. See if either OU or USC claim a NC in 2004.
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:24 pm to
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Forfeited games are not credited as wins for the other team. Those scores stay the same for the other team.


I have never seen someone be so consistently wrong over and over.

Just do a damn Google search
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:32 pm to
Look it up dumbass. You Google it but never post the difference. Those are the facts around the NCAA and CF. Vacated means the school agreed to not claim the victory, forfeited means the NCAA took the wins away. Because the schools would not agree to vacate the wins. That is the difference.
Let's hear your logic with these terms.
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:41 pm to
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Forfeited games are not credited as wins for the other team. Those scores stay the same for the other team. Just how the NCAA does business. See if either OU or USC claim a NC in 2004.




I'm not going to go down the list, but here is the first one I looked at.

1993 Arkansas Razorbacks football team

Check out that 3-43 win by Arkansas.

Posted by Murph4HOF
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:43 pm to
I thought OmegaMan was the shittiest Auburn poster in this board.

You're picking up his slack since his banishment.
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:45 pm to
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Look it up dumbass. You Google it but never post the difference. Those are the facts around the NCAA and CF. Vacated means the school agreed to not claim the victory, forfeited means the NCAA took the wins away. Because the schools would not agree to vacate the wins. That is the difference.
Let's hear your logic with these terms.




I've never in my life seen someone as full of shite as you are. You 100% literally made all of that up because you lack the chest to be a man and admit you were wrong.

What the frick does "agreeing" with it mean to start with? If the schools had any power in what goes in the NCAA record books, why would they "agree" to the forfeit rather than the vacate?

Dishonest and dumb, what a shitty life you must have had.
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:50 pm to
* – Alabama later forfeited all regular-season wins and one tie due to NCAA violations, giving an official record of 1–12 overall and 0–8 SEC. The forfeit of the tie retroactively gave Tennessee a share of the East title.

The NCAA doesn't care who won the East or even crowns a NC. Forfeits are left for the schools to claim, but the penalty to the winning school is the same, it is a loss.OU lost and the school recognized that lost and the BCS recognized that loss. I think forfeited games are also punishment to the HC record compared to vacated games. Just semantics and also legal due to coaches contract incentives.
This post was edited on 7/18/22 at 7:53 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 8:05 pm to
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What the frick does "agreeing" with it mean to start with? If the schools had any power in what goes in the NCAA record books, why would they "agree" to the forfeit rather than the vacate?



Agreeing is the final agreement between the school and the NCAA and an acknowledgment of wrong doings as part of throwing themselves at the mercy of the NCAA. The evidence was stacked against USC, and they knew it and they offered up those vacated wins. You need TO know how an NCAA investigation works. Remember Bama challenged them on everything relating to Langham. Bama did not cooperate with the NCAA in their investigation, so the NCAA made them forfit those games. And really force the record of Stallings for being defiant.
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