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re: The Bottom Line on the Miller Situation

Posted on 2/24/23 at 7:55 pm to
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
17100 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 7:55 pm to
Well, we can't convict innocent people, and we're not going to suspend the players when the DA and police say they didn't break any laws. This is a capital murder investigation and yielding to the authorities is definitely the way to go. I'm sorry that bothers you, but it is what it is. It's a shitty situation. All BAMA fans feel for the girl and her family. I'm so sorry for their loss.
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 7:56 pm
Posted by SaturdayNAthens
Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
11750 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 7:57 pm to
How nice. Bama “feels” for this young woman and her family. Y’all may “ feel” but obviously not enough to sit a player who was involved in a murder.
Win at any cost. It’s the Bama way
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 7:58 pm to
quote:

Win at any cost. It’s the Bama way




Sincerely,

The program that copied every single thing Bama ever did, to the point where some of their paperwork still had the Bama logo on it.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 7:59 pm to
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Man Alabama fans are making themselves look like complete pieces of shite

Many of us have known who they are for many decades
Posted by ceretonia
Dallas
Member since Nov 2014
753 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 7:59 pm to
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What’s untrue about it? Any average Joe would have been charged with being an accessory at the very least. And he has also broken the Bama code of behavior for students. Why is he still in school? Oh yeah. He’s the star of the BB team


You’re completely speculating like everyone else on a subject which you have very limited knowledge.

1) Charging for accessory requires a preponderance of evidence. You nor anyone here is familiar with evidence in the case. Nor are we privy to that evidence legally.

2) I’m sure his behavior has already been reviewed at the university level. At UA, the Office of Student Conduct deals with this. Specifically, the Vice President of Student Life oversees investigations. Conduct Investigator(s) or designees (conflict of interest cases) oversee the case and make recommendations. Dean of Students ultimately carries out the process if punishment is deemed appropriate.

Again, this university process is internal and we are not privy to evidence or findings. Providing image information violates FERPA. Also, specifically what code of behavior was violated?
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:01 pm to
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2) I’m sure his behavior has already been reviewed at the university level. At UA, the Office of Student Conduct deals with this. Specifically, the Vice President of Student Life oversees investigations. Conduct Investigator(s) or designees (conflict of interest cases) oversee the case and make recommendations. Dean of Students ultimately carries out the process if punishment is deemed appropriate.

Again, this university process is internal and we are not privy to evidence or findings. Providing image information violates FERPA. Also, specifically what code of behavior was violated?

You may not completely understand that everything you say is altered by - THIS BEING ALABAMA SPORTS. IF PEOPLE MUST DIE FOR IT, SO WHAT? Roll TIDE!
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 8:03 pm
Posted by ceretonia
Dallas
Member since Nov 2014
753 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:04 pm to
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I don’t give a shift if he broke a law or not

Absolutely asinine. frick due process, right?
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
19407 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:04 pm to
I don’t give a damn about Miller breaking laws, any idiot dumb enough to drive across campus with a loaded gun and to deliver it to a team mate that had been drinking at a club, which leads to a shooting death has no la,due on a college campus. Riddle me this why didn’t Miles and Davis just get a ride with Bradley who was already there? Oh yeah they needed the gun from Millers car. Why didn’t Miles tell Miller where the gun was in the text, like hey it’s on my nightstand or it’s in the back seat of your car, cause Miller already knew where it was. Any other college student would,be expelled for what Miller did. Players get disciplined for missing meetings, curfew violations and not going to class. Yet delivering a gun to a teammate that ends in murder is not a rule at Bama. There have been Frat boys expelled for less than what Miller did.
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
17100 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:05 pm to
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How nice. Bama “feels” for this young woman and her family. Y’all may “ feel” but obviously not enough to sit a player who was involved in a murder.
Win at any cost. It’s the Bama way


The justice system says Miller isn't guilty, but you want his coach to convict? That doesn't make sense. If you were in Oats shoes you'd do the same thing he's doing. You'd yield to the decision of the authorities. Oats isn't in a good situation. It sucks for him too, but doing anything other than what he's doing during a capital murder investigation would be a mistake.
Posted by SaturdayNAthens
Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
11750 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:05 pm to
Absolutely right
Posted by ceretonia
Dallas
Member since Nov 2014
753 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:11 pm to
quote:

You may not completely understand that everything you say is altered by - THIS BEING ALABAMA SPORTS. IF PEOPLE MUST DIE FOR IT, SO WHAT? Roll TIDE!

Regardless of any potential extenuating circumstances, the process is fairly simple:

Without a preponderance of evidence by law enforcement/DA, the university cannot really act in legal issues. And here, dangerous weapon/firearm policy doesn’t appear it was violated so that limits ability to charge for misconduct.
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
19407 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:12 pm to
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Absolutely asinine. frick due process


Due process is afforded under the law in the court system, not by basketball coaches or ADs. Evidently the Alabama AD admitted they didn’t do an investigation internally. They took,the DA and Millers Lawyers advise, well they found out Tuesday that he delivered the gun, which Byrne claims was new info. They didn’t want to do one cause they probably know the findings would not be favorable. Under due process why is Miles kicked off the team he hasn’t had due process either he is innocent til proven guilty dumbass,
Posted by ceretonia
Dallas
Member since Nov 2014
753 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:13 pm to
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Absolutely right

Unfortunately, you’ve proven to be an emotionally unhinged moron, so your opinion is irrelevant.
Posted by ceretonia
Dallas
Member since Nov 2014
753 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:14 pm to
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Under due process why is Miles kicked off the team he hasn’t had due process either he is innocent til proven guilty dumbass,

Preponderance of evidence…dumbass.

And I’m sorry for your family’s burden.
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
19407 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:17 pm to
Preponderance of evidence like a text that says hey bring me my gun at 145 am and you know you dropped me off at the bar 3 hours ago… the. you take the gun to the location where it was fired 8 times into a car full of people minutes after you deliver it.
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 8:18 pm
Posted by SaturdayNAthens
Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
11750 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:20 pm to
It’s looking like Kirby was the genius at Bama. Not old GrandPaw. Kirby and GrandPaw have the same number of natties since Kirby left and one of Bamas came in the Covid year. Bama hasn’t been the same since Kirby left for greener pastures. He was the genius behind Bamas success not Saban. Kirby
was just refining his skills until he could get back to his own program. So it’s Kirby’s ways and success y’all enjoyed. It’s the Georgia way that y’all benefitted from. Kirby is a purebred Dawg after all
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
21559 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:24 pm to
I would rather lose without him, than win with him....period.
Posted by crossfire
Alabama
Member since Oct 2010
2655 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:31 pm to
Dude, he brought the weapon to the killer in the middle of the night. Very you would feel much different if it was someone you know who died. Don’t let sports cloud your judgment.
Posted by ceretonia
Dallas
Member since Nov 2014
753 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:42 pm to
No, Tiger rant threads and your cousin’s Facebook post are not legally considered a preponderance of evidence.

quote:

Preponderance of evidence like a text that says hey bring me my gun at 145 am and you know you dropped me off at the bar 3 hours ago… the. you take the gun to the location where it was fired 8 times into a car full of people minutes after you deliver it.


The following specifically indicates to the university there is not a preponderance of evidence:



It pretty much ties their hands too.
Posted by SaturdayNAthens
Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
11750 posts
Posted on 2/25/23 at 3:06 pm to
You must still be stinging from that beatdown Georgia gave your hugely overrated team.
Why are you still on this board anyway? This is an SEC board made up of the best teams in the country. Not TCU fans and their like. Don’t y’all have a BIg 12 board where you could post your butt hurt comments?
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