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re: The Arkansas Georgia game is holding at 18 or moving up to 19 to 19.5 in some places...

Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:52 am to
Posted by TrussvilleTide
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:52 am to
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Imagine believing he’s bad because his competition hasn’t been great. You realize a player can be good and still play against bad teams, right?


Never said he was bad. Hes looked like the best TE in the country, and I just don't think hes that.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:54 am to
Vegas is going to react to the sharps. No one else.
Posted by atlanta917
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:56 am to
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Never said he was bad. Hes looked like the best TE in the country, and I just don't think hes that.

Is any UGA fan claiming he’s the best TE in the country? He’s could be an elite TE or UGA’s play calling on offense has improved. Probably a bit of both.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:57 am to
No, you're trying to put fake points on the board for UGA to discredit my point that UGA hasn't put up a meaningful number of points against a good defense so far this year by providing a bunch of BS context that doesn't even matter, and even if it did it doesn't really change much because your fake points aren't much better. NC State scored more on Clemson even with your 13 extra moral victory-millennial participation trophy points.

If you have to tell yourself UGA was convincing at all offensively in that game in order to cope, I'm not stopping you.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:58 am to
The guy I replied to implied that hes unstoppable, which I also do not believe at this point.
Posted by piggilicious
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:59 am to
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Does it say there is a strong belief in UGA? A disbelief still in Arkansas? A little of both?


Probably both.

A&M was wowser level overrated imo. Their offense looked junior high quality.
Posted by atlanta917
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:59 am to
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NC State scored more on Clemson even with your 13 extra moral victory-millennial participation trophy points.

I thought context mattered? Clemsons defense was healthier when they played UGA and UGA was missing around half their starting offense when they played Clemson. It’s hilarious that someone would try and use a one game sample size to determine anything, especially when that one game is the first of the season.

Using your logic FAU’s defense is better than Bama’s because FAU only allowed 6 more points to Florida who had a healthy AR.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 9:02 am
Posted by atlanta917
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:00 am to
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The guy I replied to implied that hes unstoppable, which I also do not believe at this point.

There’s a difference between being unstoppable and whether or not Arkansas can stop him.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:02 am to
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I thought context mattered? Clemsons defense was healthier when they played UGA and UGA was missing around half their starting offense when they played Clemson. It’s hilarious that someone would try and use a one game sample size to determine anything, especially when that one game is the first of the season.



All of the context we have for my original claim, that Georgia hasn't been good offensively against a defense with a pulse, is the Clemson game. Hence talking about it.

There were multiple drives and opportunities in this game, but the King of Cope has to cope by focusing on the last drive where the only thing each team was doing was trying to get the ball back or trying to run out the clock.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:03 am to
Then we will see on Saturday. I guess me and the other guy have a bet on him getting 100 yards now.
Posted by atlanta917
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:03 am to
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All of the context we have for my original claim, that Georgia hasn't been good offensively against a defense with a pulse, is the Clemson game. Hence talking about it.

It’s a one game sample size… FAU allowed 6 more points to a healthy UF than bama. Does that mean FAU’s defense is better than Bama’s?
Posted by TrussvilleTide
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:06 am to
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It’s a one game sample size


Good thing I'm not saying "Georgia's offense is definitely bad" then. Its not a good sample size, but its all we have until Saturday.

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FAU allowed 6 more points to a healthy UF than bama. Does that mean FAU’s defense is better than Bama’s?



If they allowed more points why would they be better in your scenario?
Posted by atlanta917
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:06 am to
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Then we will see on Saturday. I guess me and the other guy have a bet on him getting 100 yards now.

There are more ways to impact the game than just receiving yards. If you want to see if Arkansas respects him then see if they shift their coverage to him. Him opening the field for other receivers will be just as impactful.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:07 am to
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No, you're trying to put fake points on the board for UGA to discredit my point that UGA hasn't put up a meaningful number of points against a good defense so far this year


Safe to assume a team is expected to score points when you drive to the 12 yard line.

Uga chose to not score. Didn’t even try.

And that pesky “amongst other things” you continue to avoid. Context matters, but your brain can’t understand context as it appears.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:07 am to
Setting yourself up with an out, veteran message board move, my dude
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:08 am to
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Vegas is going to react to the sharps. No one else.

I believe Vegas reacts only to the money.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:09 am to
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Its not a good sample size

lol that’s an understatement.
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its all we have until Saturday.

It doesn’t mean anything though. Do you think half of UGA’s offense will become injured before the game? If not, then the situations aren’t comparable.
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If they allowed more points why would they be better in your scenario?

FAU had to deal with UF’s best offensive weapon, while bama did not.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:09 am to
You win I'm putting your fake points on the board for UGA, y'all were actually "mediocre at best" against Clemson on O and not b"ad" now. You wore me down bud.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:13 am to
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It doesn’t mean anything though.


It might not. It might. We don't know. Do you just not talk football until the season is 3/4 of the way over?

I mean, with UGA's schedule you might not really know until after the SEC championship.

Whats the point of discussing at all before then if you can't look at something and say "I think this may be the case based on what we know so far", then reacting and adjusting to new data as it comes in?

Are you as unwilling to entertain such a possibility about teams you dislike? How can we know anything about anybody yet?
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:19 am to
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We don't know

We do though. One game sample sizes don’t mean anything. This isn’t a difficult concept. According to your logic Louisiana Monroe’s coach is better than saban because he beat him. If a QB throws a touchdown and suffered a career ending injury on the next play, is he the greatest QB of all time since all of his passes went for touchdowns?
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Do you just not talk football until the season is 3/4 of the way over?

Talking is fine. Making definitive statements off a one game sample size is not.
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"I think this may be the case based on what we know so far"

You aren’t using everything you know. We know UGA was missing half their starters on offense for Clemson. Do you have some inside knowledge that UGA will be missing half their starters again?
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Are you as unwilling to entertain such a possibility about teams you dislike?

Yes. I wouldn’t use a one game sample size for anything. I don’t think FAU’s and Bama’s defenses are comparable just because each gave up a similar amount of points to one common opponent.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 9:22 am
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