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re: Texas A&M/Missouri to the SEC decision could happen soon

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Posted by busey
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Posted on 8/1/11 at 2:37 pm to
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Kentucky...above the Mason-Dixon line


Geography fail...
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 8/1/11 at 2:41 pm to
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Geography fail...

Depends on if you are using the original Mason Dixon line from the 1730's or the the imaginary Mason Dixon line that was generated from the Missouri Compromise.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 8/1/11 at 2:44 pm to
Arky should replace the Aggies in the Big 12 when aTm joins the SEC.
Posted by busey
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Posted on 8/1/11 at 2:45 pm to
Missour Compromise



Mason Dixon



Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 8/1/11 at 2:47 pm to
The Missouri Compromise was an imaginary line that went across the 36th parallel. Kentucky just happened to already be a slave state but they are indeed above that line.
This post was edited on 8/1/11 at 2:48 pm
Posted by SunHog
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Posted on 8/1/11 at 2:48 pm to
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busey
Big12 ADs meeting today....A&M/Missouri SEC decision could happen soon.
quote:
Kentucky...above the Mason-Dixon line


Geography fail...



I'll explain 2 other ways.

Kentucky fought, as a state, fought for the North.

or.

If Kentucky is in the south half the state of Missouri is also.

Posted by busey
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Posted on 8/1/11 at 2:50 pm to
Got a link or anything? Because the Missouri Compromise was a map, not a line. And if you want to be technical about it, the only states below the Mason Dixon Line are Maryland, Virginia, most of WV, NC, SC, coastal GA, and FL. All the others are west of the line.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 8/1/11 at 2:51 pm to
If KY is represented as fighting for the north by that ugly dark pink then why is VA the same ugly dark pink.
Posted by busey
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Posted on 8/1/11 at 2:52 pm to
Kentucky fought for the north and South. The eastern half fought for the north. The western half, Louisville, and Lexington fought for the South for the most part. There were two governments in Kentucky at that time.
Posted by busey
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Posted on 8/1/11 at 2:54 pm to
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If KY is represented as fighting for the north by that ugly dark pink then why is VA the same ugly dark pink.


I was about to post the same thing.
Posted by SunHog
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Posted on 8/1/11 at 2:56 pm to
Kentucky's name is missing from this list.

Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 8/1/11 at 2:57 pm to
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Got a link or anything? Because the Missouri Compromise was a map, not a line. And if you want to be technical about it, the only states below the Mason Dixon Line are Maryland, Virginia, most of WV, NC, SC, coastal GA, and FL. All the others are west of the line.

Just google Missouri Compromise. The line separated the north from the south on the 36 degree 30' latitude line east of the established territories. Technically Kentucky is north of this line so if you are using that latitude as your Mason Dixon line then Kentucky is in the north.

However, like the said, the true Mason Dixon line is the original one from the 1700's.

I think most people just assume the Mason Dixon line is the marker that divides the states that fought for the North and the states that fough for the South in the Civil War.
Posted by SunHog
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Posted on 8/1/11 at 2:58 pm to
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busey
Big12 ADs meeting today....A&M/Missouri SEC decision could happen soon.
Kentucky fought for the north and South. The eastern half fought for the north. The western half, Louisville, and Lexington fought for the South for the most part. There were two governments in Kentucky at that time.



Correct.

They never left the Union as a state when given the chance. They declared Neutral. Then when it erupted you had different governments being setup.
This post was edited on 8/1/11 at 3:00 pm
Posted by busey
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Posted on 8/1/11 at 2:59 pm to
The fact is your original statement was way off. The Mason Dixon line is the southern border of PA.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 8/1/11 at 3:00 pm to
KY needs to be kicked out of the SEC IMO now.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 8/1/11 at 3:01 pm to
Here's a map of the Missouri Compromise that shows what I'm saying.

What seems to be the common line of thought that I have come across is that people mistakenly just connect the original Mason Dixon line with the Missouri Compromise by going down the northern borders of Kentucky and West Virginia.

This post was edited on 8/1/11 at 3:02 pm
Posted by SunHog
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Posted on 8/1/11 at 3:01 pm to
The fact remains Missouri is as southern as Kentucky. Both were claimed by the south yet neither left the Union to join the CSA.

In the wiki link from my screen shot it talks about Missouri was more pro-confederate than Kentucky.

Also, looking at a map they are exactly the same.

As is top half of Arkansas is to Tennessee as the bottom half of Arkansas is to Mississippi.
Posted by SunHog
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Posted on 8/1/11 at 3:02 pm to
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TheCheshireHog
Big12 ADs meeting today....A&M/Missouri SEC decision could happen soon.
Here's a map of the Missouri Compromise that shows what I'm saying.

What seems to be the common line of thought that I have come across is that people mistakenly just connect the original Mason Dixon line with the Missouri Compromise by going down the northern borders of Kentucky and West Virginia.




Agreed.
Posted by Swoopin
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Posted on 8/1/11 at 3:03 pm to
Oh, I wish I was in the land of cotton.
Posted by busey
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Posted on 8/1/11 at 3:04 pm to
I haven't spent much time in Missouri, and historically you may be correct, but the cultures are nothing alike. Also, I guess the capital of the Confederacy is north of the Missouri Compromise so...
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