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re: Teams with most National Championship according to the NCAA
Posted on 7/11/22 at 3:36 pm to 3down10
Posted on 7/11/22 at 3:36 pm to 3down10
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It's their record book.
It's not.
It literally says:
FOOTBALL BOWL
SUBDIVISION
RECORDS
...on the cover.
This is the link:
LINK ]LINK ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/2020/FBS.pdf
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Again, if that is the criteria then why are all the others that qualify missing?
Here's page 112:
NATIONAL POLL RANKINGS
NATIONAL CHAMPION MAJOR SELECTIONS (1896 TO PRESENT)
The criteria for being included in this historical list of poll selectors is that the poll be national in scope, either through distribution in newspaper, television, radio and/or computer online. The list includes both former selectors, who were instrumental in the sport of college football, and selectors who were among the Bowl
Championship Series (BCS) selectors.
Selector Format First Last Total Seasons Rankings
Bob Alderson Math 1994 1998 5 5
Anderson/Hester (Seattle Times) Math 1997 2019 23 23
Associated Press (AP) Poll 1936 2019 84 84
Clyde Berryman Math 1990 2011 26 1920-89 92
Richard Billingsley Math 1970 2019 50 1869-70, 1872-1969 50
William Boand Math 1930 1960 31 1919-29 42
College Football Researchers Association Poll 1982 2019 22 1869-81; 1993-2008 149
Wes Colley Math 1992 2019 28 28
Congrove Computer Rankings Math 1993 2019 27 27
Parke Davis Research 1933 1933 1 1869-1932 65
Harry DeVold Math 1945 2006 63 1939-44 69
Frank Dickinson Math 1926 1940 15 1924-25 17
Dunkel Math 1929 2019 91 91
Steve Eck Math 1983 2005 22 22
Football News Poll 1958 2002 45 45
Football Writers Association (FW) Poll 1954 2013 60 60
FWAA-NFF Grantland Rice Super 16 Poll 2014 2019 6 6
Harris Interactive# Poll 2005 2013 9 9
Helms Athletic Foundation Poll 1941 1982 42 1883-1940 100
Deke Houlgate Math 1927 1958 32 1885-1926 72
International News Service Poll 1952 1957 6 6
Edward Litkenhous Math 1934 1984 51 51
Kenneth Massey Math 1995 2019 25 25
Herman Matthews Math 1966 2006 41 41
National Championship Foundation Poll 1980 2000 21 1869-70, 1872-1979 131
National Football Foundation (NFF) Poll 1959 2013 51 51
New York Times Math 1979 2004 26 26
Richard Poling Math 1935 1984 50 1924-34 61
David Rothman (FACT) Math 1968 2006 42 42
Jeff Sagarin Math 1978 2019 42 1919-77 101
Sporting News Poll 1975 2006 32 32
American Football Coaches Association (AFCA)^ Poll 1945 1
United Press International (UPI) Poll 1950 1995 44 44
UPI/NFF Poll 1991 1992 2 2
USA Today Poll 2005 2013 9 9
USA Today/Amway Poll 2014 2019 5 5
USA Today/CNN Poll 1982 1996 15 15
USA Today/ESPN Poll 1997 2004 8 8
USA Today/National Football Foundation Poll 1993 1994 2 2
Caspar Whitney Math 1905 1907 3 3
Paul Williamson Math 1932 1963 32 32
Peter Wolfe Math 1992 2019 28 28
#Did not compile final ranking after the bowl games so it is not included on the year-by-year listings.
^The AFCA Trophy is traditionally given to the national champion of the coaches’ poll but in 2016, the AFCA retroactively awarded a national championship
trophy for the 1945 season. The coaches polls were the UPI poll (1950-1990), the USA Today/CNN poll (1991-1996), the USA Today/ESPN poll (1997-
2004), the USA Today poll (2005-2014) and the USA Today/Amway poll (2014-present)
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Ok then recognizing doesn't mean shite, and quoting that the NCAA recognizes them is worthless.
Dude, maybe stop looking for so much meaning in a ball game.
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according to your claims, we can't define what a legitimate national championship is anymore.
There you go again...
My claim is that the system we have in place now isn't nearly as ambiguous as it used to be. Can teams like UCF still claim titles? Sure, but people will point and laugh because it's stupid in light of the recent rules for the CFB playoffs - just like when people pointed and laughed at Tulane's 1998 claim when the BCS was in place.
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 3:47 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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It literally says:
FOOTBALL BOWL
SUBDIVISION
RECORDS
...on the cover.
This is the link:
LINK
Once again, they just put whatever people want in that.
You seem to be ignoring how people actually use this list to justify their schools claims, when all it does is list those claims.
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Dude, maybe stop looking for so much meaning in a ball game.
So people making up bogus claims, that's not looking for meaning from a ball game, but the person who says they aren't legit is?
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There you go again...
My claim is that the system we have in place now isn't nearly as ambiguous as it used to be. Can teams like UCF still claim titles? Sure, but people will point and laugh because it's stupid in light of the recent rules for the CFB playoffs - just like when people pointed and laughed at Tulane's 1998 claim when the BCS was in place.
They are laughed at because they are bullshite claims.
Posted on 7/11/22 at 4:02 pm to RelentlessTide
Yea well, the Rasmussen and Lichtenhouse polls voted UGA as national champion a couple of times, but we don’t claim them.
Posted on 7/11/22 at 4:33 pm to 3down10
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So people making up bogus claims, that's not looking for meaning from a ball game, but the person who says they aren't legit is?
Not only did I not say anything like that, I didn't even imply as much.
I'm not sure what your agenda is, but it seems to be clouding your reasoning.
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They are laughed at because they are bullshite claims.
Yes, just like Alabama's acknowledging Houlgate's 1941 award. It's an actual award, but it's still bullshite. I look at it this way, the University of Alabama is not technically wrong for acknowledging the 1941 title, but they are petty for doing it.
But big deal. I mean after all, who the frick really cares? State fans? Auburn fans?
Posted on 7/11/22 at 9:00 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Not only did I not say anything like that, I didn't even imply as much.
I'm not sure what your agenda is, but it seems to be clouding your reasoning.
No agenda, it's just a matter of what is and isn't legit.
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Yes, just like Alabama's acknowledging Houlgate's 1941 award. It's an actual award, but it's still bullshite. I look at it this way, the University of Alabama is not technically wrong for acknowledging the 1941 title, but they are petty for doing it.
But big deal. I mean after all, who the frick really cares? State fans? Auburn fans?
Sure, teams can claim whatever they want. You're moving the goal posts here a bit. But if people are going to use something like the NCAA as justification, then it should be a system with actual guidelines. If it's just a list of what people claim, then it's not a valid indicator of legitimate national championships.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 12:16 am to borotiger
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It's almost time for Chicken to bump his thread.
All that does is make him look bad, not Bama.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 9:21 am to ALA2262
quote:Best to stop right there.
I have never agreed with Bama recognizing 1941
Posted on 7/12/22 at 9:23 am to imjustafatkid
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All that does is make him look bad, not Bama.
He doesn't care. All he cares about is that ad revenue.
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