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re: Stoops takes a jab at Aggies and Mizzou

Posted on 3/8/12 at 4:43 pm to
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 3/8/12 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

BenHOGan


So you admit that you are stupid.

I'm glad we at least got that narrowed down.

Thanks.

Posted by taylormade
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Posted on 3/8/12 at 4:44 pm to
Stoops.............

Posted by kilo
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Posted on 3/8/12 at 4:45 pm to
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You completely missed the point. I honestly can't tell at this point if you are mind-blowingly stupid and arrogant or just a pro troll...



No he is just "that guy"

Arkansas has an inordinate amount of them here on the rant.
Posted by BenHOGan
Kansas City
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 3/8/12 at 4:47 pm to
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So you admit that you are stupid.


Do we HAVE to keep coming back to your lack of reading comprehension skills again and again? Are you really that poor at reading, or are you just pulling my leg and typing non-sequitors to my posts to get your jollies?

The whole point of this exercise demonstrates that without a doubt, I am your superior, and you have a very short fuse which gets you WAY too worked up over an internet message board as to be bad for your health. Step AWAY from the keyboard.
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
9890 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 4:48 pm to
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Do we HAVE to keep coming back to your lack of reading comprehension skills again and again? Are you really that poor at reading, or are you just pulling my leg and typing non-sequitors to my posts to get your jollies?

The whole point of this exercise demonstrates that without a doubt, I am your superior, and you have a very short fuse which gets you WAY too worked up over an internet message board as to be bad for your health. Step AWAY from the keyboard.

Take your own advice.
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 3/8/12 at 4:51 pm to
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BreakawayZou83


quote:

Take your own advice.


Exactly.

Man, the stupid ones are easy marks.

Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 4:51 pm to
Ben,

When you type slowly for me, make sure you address my question.

The big 12 has a whole left by 2 mediocre teams. They are replaced by 2 competitive (allegedly) teams. Somebody will have to move if the replacements are better.

For example, let's say this is the pecking order of the big 12 over the last 3 years. See David Uppen from ESPN

Three-year Big 12 record (Big 12 title games omitted)

1. Oklahoma State: 20-5
2. Oklahoma : 17-8
3. Missouri: 15-10
4. Kansas State: 14-11
4. Texas: 14-11
6. Texas A&M: 13-12
7. Baylor: 11-14
8. Texas Tech: 10-15
9. Iowa State: 9-16
10. Kansas: 2-23

Where does TCU or WVU fit in and who moves up/down?

1. Oklahoma State: 20-5
2. Oklahoma : 17-8
3. WVU????
4. Kansas State: 14-11
4. Texas: 14-11
6. TCU???
7. Baylor: 11-14
8. Texas Tech: 10-15
9. Iowa State: 9-16
10. Kansas: 2-23

If this is how it shakes out, how is that an "upgrade" or a "lateral move"?
Posted by BenHOGan
Kansas City
Member since Sep 2005
1775 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 4:51 pm to
quote:

Take your own advice


You girls are too easy. Have a beer and don't take yourselves so seriously.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 4:53 pm to
1. Oklahoma State: 20-5
2. Oklahoma : 17-8
3. Missouri: 15-10
4. Kansas State: 14-11
4. Texas: 14-11
6. Texas A&M: 13-12
7. Baylor: 11-14
8. Texas Tech: 10-15
9. Iowa State: 9-16
10. Kansas: 2-23

Maybe I should first ask this. Where do you see TCU and WVU fitting in to this order?
Posted by BenHOGan
Kansas City
Member since Sep 2005
1775 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

1. Oklahoma State: 20-5
2. Oklahoma : 17-8
3. WVU????
4. Kansas State: 14-11
4. Texas: 14-11
6. TCU???
7. Baylor: 11-14
8. Texas Tech: 10-15
9. Iowa State: 9-16
10. Kansas: 2-23


I'd say move WVU below KS and UT, and it stacks up nicely. I think the wildcard in all this is how the drug stuff will impact TCU going forward. That could bump them to TT/ISU status pretty quickly and possibly below Kansas, depending on how Mr. Creosote does over there.

Likewise, I think TAMU and Mis slot into the middle of the pack in the SEC as well. I believe TAMU is closer to being competitive than Mis is.
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 3/8/12 at 4:58 pm to
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You girls are too easy. Have a beer and don't take yourselves so seriously.


Translation:

quote:

"Yea, I realize now that my original statement was ridiculous and then, as is always the case when I talk out of my arse, I dug my self in deeper when trying to type my way out of this mess."

Posted by BenHOGan
Kansas City
Member since Sep 2005
1775 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 5:00 pm to
quote:


"Yea, I realize now that my original statement was ridiculous and then, as is always the case when I talk out of my arse, I dug my self in deeper when trying to type my way out of this mess."


ORRRRR the translation just might be...

"You girls are too easy. Have a beer and don't take yourselves too seriously."

Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 5:00 pm to
1. Oklahoma State: 20-5
2. Oklahoma : 17-8
3. Kansas State: 14-11
3. Texas: 14-11
5. WVU
6. TCU
7. Baylor: 11-14
8. Texas Tech: 10-15
9. Iowa State: 9-16
10. Kansas: 2-23

So, Texas and KSU moved UP. They automatically got better because Missouri left. How are these upgrades and how is this a lateral move. The replacements went down.
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 3/8/12 at 5:03 pm to
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I'd say move WVU below KS and UT, and it stacks up nicely


You do realize that this completley contradicts what you have said.

This is great entertainment.
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 3/8/12 at 5:03 pm to
quote:

So, Texas and KSU moved UP. They automatically got better because Missouri left. How are these upgrades and how is this a lateral move. The replacements went down.


Exactly. This guy doenst know which way is up right now.

Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 5:04 pm to
When you have nothing else to say, go with you girls are easy, right Hogan? You think you have Billy Goat Gruff skills at trolling , but you're coming across hot pink.


Posted by BenHOGan
Kansas City
Member since Sep 2005
1775 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 5:09 pm to
quote:

1. Oklahoma State: 20-5
2. Oklahoma : 17-8
3. Kansas State: 14-11
3. Texas: 14-11
5. WVU
6. TCU
7. Baylor: 11-14
8. Texas Tech: 10-15
9. Iowa State: 9-16
10. Kansas: 2-23

So, Texas and KSU moved UP. They automatically got better because Missouri left. How are these upgrades and how is this a lateral move. The replacements went down.


Here's the quote lifted from my original post...

"That argument only has merit if you believe your premise, which I don't. WVU and TCU are making lateral moves into the Big 8. Misurah and eATMe are taking a HUGE step up. in competition."

In no way have I contradicted this at any time. When I say WV and TCU are making lateral moves, I'm saying that they are middlin' teams in their own conferences who will occasionally battle their Top Dawgs every few years - as both have done for the past decade. The TCU team that won the rose bowl would have competed for a title in the Big 8. Likewise, this year's TCU team would have gone to a bowl similar to the one they went to this year if it had played in the Big 8. When they get into the Big 8, expect that to continue to be the case. Their fate will not change. Lateral move. Ditto for WVU

And as for the second part of my post, TCU and WVU have a better shot at winning consistently sooner in the Big 8 than TAMU or Mis in the SEC.
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
9890 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

In no way have I contradicted this at any time. When I say WV and TCU are making lateral moves, I'm saying that they are middlin' teams in their own conferences who will occasionally battle their Top Dawgs every few years - as both have done for the past decade. The TCU team that won the rose bowl would have competed for a title in the Big 8. Likewise, this year's TCU team would have gone to a bowl similar to the one they went to this year if it had played in the Big 8. When they get into the Big 8, expect that to continue to be the case. Their fate will not change. Lateral move. Ditto for WVU

If you really believe this, then I just don't know what else to say to you. Neither of those teams would have similar records and bowls if they had to play Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Baylor, Kansas State & Mizzou/A&M instead of the teams they played in the Big East and the MWC. If you go back more than one season add Nebraska and Texas Tech (under Leach) to that list as well.
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

TCU will eventually become a middle of the road team in the Big 12. They sucked in the SWC and they will be nothing special in the Big 12.


So, what you're saying is that TCU will become another A&M?

Posted by kilo
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/8/12 at 5:18 pm to
Lets parse your nonsense Ben.


quote:

In no way have I contradicted this at any time. When I say WV and TCU are making lateral moves, I'm saying that they are middlin' teams in their own conferences who will occasionally battle their Top Dawgs every few years


You do realize that they are both "TOP" teams consistently in the Big East and MWC respectively, right?

quote:

TCU team would have gone to a bowl similar to the one they went to this year if it had played in the Big 8. When they get into the Big 8, expect that to continue to be the case. Their fate will not change. Lateral move. Ditto for WVU


SO WVU is a middling Big 12 team thats going to a BCS bowl?

Is there really a need to go on?






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