re: Spurrier and the USClite

Before there could be Trojans there had to be Cocks.

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oklahogjr posted: except wins.

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Meh, shite is in the distant past. Yale and Harvard used to dominate college football too ...

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USMC Gators posted: While neither program has a BCS title, Clemson has a pretty comfortable lead h2h.

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Well, let's think about that for a moment, shall we? As a Gator fan you should be familiar with some of this.

Clemson as Clemson A&M until right after WWII. And much of their advantage in wins came during that time span, when SC was coed and Clemson was all male. As you know, prior to WWII the A&M all male schools held a distinct advantage over coed schools of their day ... with a few rare exceptions of course. But especially in small states like SC where, at the time, the total population was less than one million.

Post WWII things balanced out and from 1946-1975 the series was in SC's favor, 17-13. In 1975 we beat Clemson 56-20 and they (the taterheads) decided they were going into their blatant cheating phase. It won them the MNC four years later but it cost them in terms of sanctions and their list of violations from '76-81 is still considered the most egregious of any in the history of college football with over 300 noted instances of exchanges of goods, services and cash for players. A lot of it happened under Charlie Pell before he departed for Florida, the rest under Danny Ford who was later busted again in 1987 and fired.

What it also gave them was the MNC which led to them having the upper hand in terms of recruiting. All the while SC was playing as an independent and it cost us between the ACC and SEC years.

By the time we joined the SEC and started playing the SEC schedule, we again were at a disadvantage because we played Clemson last on our schedule. The games immediately preceding Clemson were Tennessee and Florida, and we were always limping into that Clemson game ... it was another distinct advantage for them and again, they increased their lead in terms of games won.

All of that is in the past now, and we shall not return there again. The worm has turned and the past is the past in our eyes. We could give a rip about the past - it's all about the future for South Carolina football. We're on the right path finally, and it has not been easy but we never wavered and never gave up as fans.

Why don't you like Strong? I mean I think Ward is a lock if hes still with the university when Spurrier retires, but if he went somewhere else I'd like Strong. Has experience both in the SEC and as a head coach.

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Holy shite, that's a long reply. Add in some discussion about the civil war, and you could be a Mizzou fan

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The SC vs Clemson rivalry is unique among all others. No other rivalry can compare.

For that reason is required a relatively longer, more detailed, reply.

I trust you learned something in the process. I tried to keep it as short and sweet as possible given the short attention span of most youths these days.

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Because Strong has warts.

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By the way, you Carolina fans debase yourself by getting into arguments over acronyms with Arkansas fans. You are better than that.

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It has to do with continuity.

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elaborate. how could there be a continuity issue if Ward was promoted from from within?? Itd be the same exact defense

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scrooster

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I read your whole post, interesting stuff.

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Mark Dantonio from Michigan St. would be interesting. Though, he may be too old.

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Mark loves us and is a strong alumnus but he is gonna retire at Mich St. He said as much at the last letterman reunion he attended.