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re: So adding Clemson and FSU to the SEC was not a bad idea after all...

Posted on 2/10/17 at 4:47 pm to
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 4:47 pm to
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Conferences are too big already.

The old Southern Conference had 20 teams...

SOUTHERN CONFERENCE HISTORY:

Talks of a new conference for southern athletics had started as early as fall of 1920.[8] The conference was formed on February 25, 1921 in Atlanta as fourteen member institutions split from the Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Association.[1] Southern Conference charter members were Alabama, Auburn, Clemson, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi State, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Tennessee, Virginia, Virginia Tech, and Washington & Lee. In 1922, six more universities – Florida, LSU, Mississippi, South Carolina, Tulane, and Vanderbilt joined the conference. The first year of competition for the conference was in 1922, effective January 1.[9][10] The new rules banned freshman play.[11] Later additions included Sewanee (1923), Virginia Military Institute (1924), and Duke (1929).

The SoCon is particularly notable for having spawned two other major conferences. In 1932, the 13 schools located south and west of the Appalachians (Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi State, University of the South(Sewanee), Tennessee, Tulane, and Vanderbilt) all departed the SoCon to form the Southeastern Conference (SEC). In 1953, seven additional schools (Clemson, Duke, Maryland, North Carolina, North Carolina State, South Carolina, and Wake Forest) withdrew from the SoCon to form the Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC).[1] The SEC and ACC have gone on to surpass their parent conference in prestige; while the SEC and ACC are considered "power" conferences in Division I FBS (formerly Division I-A), the SoCon dropped to Division I-AA (FCS) in 1982, four years after the top division was split into two levels in 1978.
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Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 4:54 pm to
Which is why the SoCon didn't have an official champion in football until 1933.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 5:48 pm to
Nailed it. Settled for sixth and fifth runner-ups.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 6:59 pm to
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Not so sure on this.

$10 a month is a number I pulled out of my butt. But let's do the numbers.

12 months x $10 = $120 a year from each subscription.

$120 x 400,000 = $48,000,000 - and that's clear money, with no sharing or ESPN taking some off the top. Revenue straight from the consumer, with no filtering (though it would take a staff of some sort to just do the filming and streaming - certainly could be done a lot cheaper than ESPN though).

So the real question is: are there 400,000 crazy Gump fanatics willing to pay $10 a month for this (we already know they are crazy enough to kill trees and put their junk in the face of drunks)?

What might not be possible for weaksauce like the Longhorn network might be feasible for Alabama.

After all, sometimes volume isn't the solution. Sometimes it takes toothless fanaticism, and Texans... they just don't know.

Best of all they won't care if there are enormous blank broadcasting spots - like only 13 games and a spring game worth of content. Maybe they will go all out and cover spring and fall practice live (as far as Saban will let them).

Actually a good barometer for how it might go for a school is spring game attendance. That is for the hardcore.




Those numbers look great if there wasn't any production cost. Finding enough material to air would also be a problem. 24/7 of Bama Football would last about 2 months, even in Alabama.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 7:09 pm to
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Clemson lost to Pittsburgh and barely escaped about 4 ACC teams.


And was a hail mary into the endzone from losing to Malzahn's whirly bird offense.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 9:05 pm to
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Despite their talent, do you think either of them could go through the SEC gauntlet like Alabama? Clemson lost to Pittsburgh and barely escaped about 4 ACC teams.

Well, the ACC was just as good if not better than the SEC this season.

So, yes. Definitely.
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 9:28 pm to
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South Carolina was a bad choice.


Wrong. Missouri was a bad choice and likely aTm. Bring back GaTech and add FSU Clemson MiamiU UNC Louisville Maryland VaTech & Virginia. And throw Tulane a bone to bring back the founding fathers.
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 9:31 pm
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 9:29 pm to
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Missouri was a bad choice and likely aTm

Missouri was awful.

Texas A&M was good.
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
2612 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 10:25 pm to
I guess I'm one of the people that thinks the conferences are too big.

Part of me really would like to go back to the old setup.

By that I mean South Carolina in a conference with the 4 NC schools, Clemson, Virginia, and I guess Georgia Tech.

Ideally, just from the point of view of a fan of my school:

Georgia
Georgia Tech
Clemson
South Carolina
Wake
Duke
NC State
North Carolina

Play 7 opponents in conference every year. 5 games (with the way it's done now) to do whatever.

All the schools are in easy commuting distance, easy to have rivalry games that actually have some emotion.

Of course this would never fly for Georgia. But geographically I think it makes a lot of sense. But lots of things make sense for Georgia looking at a map.

Or maybe the 4 NC schools, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Clemson, and South Carolina.

Eh, just a thought. Nice to play the SEC schools, but in the end I would get into playing NC State more every year than Texas A&M.
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