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re: SEC 's best QB

Posted on 10/9/12 at 7:08 am to
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 7:08 am to
I doubt the drug addict makes it to the nfl,he's a quitter and doesn't have it between the ears.

He's a drugged out version of Ryan Leaf,Tim Couch also comes to mind.
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 7:57 am
Posted by Pigfeet
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 7:14 am to
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51012 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 7:17 am to
quote:

JFF reminds me of a faster Tebow for some reason.



THeir #s thus far are eerily similar.

07 Tebow v 12 JFF (through 5 games)
Passing Yards: 1297 v 1285
Comp%: 69.67% v 69.33%
Passing TDs: 11 v 11
Rushing Yards: 433 v 495
YPC: 4.9 v 6.9
Rushing TDs: 8 v 7
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29197 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 8:04 am to
quote:

Total Offense

1. Manziel
2. Wilson
3. Bray
4. Murray
5. Russell


Not surprising.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29197 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 8:05 am to
quote:

THeir #s thus far are eerily similar.

07 Tebow v 12 JFF (through 5 games)
Passing Yards: 1297 v 1285
Comp%: 69.67% v 69.33%
Passing TDs: 11 v 11
Rushing Yards: 433 v 495
YPC: 4.9 v 6.9
Rushing TDs: 8 v 7


Wow. Didn't Tebow win the Heisman that year with like 4 or 5 losses? Johnny... Football...
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 8:13 am to
One current SEC QB is 17-1 as a starter, has won a National Title, has a very good completion percentage, and hasn't thrown an Interception since last year. He also has a hell of an arm, can make every throw, and most of his incompletions on the year are drops or throwaways so he doesn't get sacked.


Ladies and Gentleman, AJ McCannon.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 8:14 am to
quote:

Bama has the best OL. Put Tyler Wilson behind Bama's OL and he's leading the Heisman race.


I kind of agree. But he wouldn't be LEADING it.

Tyler Wilson is the best in the league.
Posted by aggiegreg93
Austin, Tx
Member since Jul 2012
1013 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 8:15 am to
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No QB has done more to help his team this season in the SEC,than Connor Shaw. Sorry Fl fans. Driscoll is good but has more to work with,IMO. If you can't see that,you're fn blind. Ya'll Wilson and Bray folks keep throwing in stats. Stats don't win games,but a QB with balls does,least till they get knocked off,lol. I'll reserve judgement on AJ,when he brings us back from a 4th quarter deficit,if that ever happens


Have you not watched an Aggie game because based on your logic you haven't seen Johnny Football play
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 8:20 am
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
34887 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 8:15 am to
AJ gets the advantage of being in the most QB friendly offense in the SEC.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29197 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 8:16 am to
quote:

One current SEC QB is 17-1 as a starter, has won a National Title, has a very good completion percentage, and hasn't thrown an Interception since last year. He also has a hell of an arm, can make every throw, and most of his incompletions on the year are drops or throwaways so he doesn't get sacked.


Ladies and Gentleman, AJ McCannon.



AJ McCarron is asked to do as much as the Alabama punter. I'm sure the his stats are equally as impressive under Saban.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 8:17 am to
quote:

AJ gets the advantage of being in the most QB friendly offense in the SEC.



Everyone is lucky we don't have an air raid offense with our line and our WRs and with AJ. Records, spirits, and ankles would all be broken.
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
34887 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 8:21 am to
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Everyone is lucky we don't have an air raid offense with our line and our WRs and with AJ. Records, spirits, and ankles would all be broken


I'm not gonna say the guy couldnt do it, because he's never been asked so we dont know. He's accurate and is a good manager which is all he needs to be.

When you factor in his efficiecy and TD/INT ratio, yet he's not even top 5 for total offense or yards, it's obvious he isn't asked to do much.

LSU tries to run an offense that is based on that principle, however it is a little different than yalls offense, but LSU just cant get it done. I feel Mett or any other handful of QBs could flourish in yalls offense. That's not a knock on AJ, but kudos to your scheme, OL, WR, and RBs. I'm tempered down on bashing him since the NC game, because he did what noone thought he could do.
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 8:22 am
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29197 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 8:29 am to
quote:

I feel Mett or any other handful of QBs could flourish in yalls offense.


Probably every QB in the league outside of the guy State has, or whoever Gene is rolling out week to week.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 8:35 am to
Oh I agree, but he definitely has the tools in terms of decision making and throwing ability to do more, we just don't ask him to. The chain that he was tied to last year (let off against UT, Aubie, and LSU) is looser this year, but Saban is still keeping his left hand resting on top of it. If we need him to, we'll probably start throwing it a little more, but as of right now I agree with what you're saying.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 8:39 am to
Bray is hands down the best at throwing the football.

everything else, and what you expect a college QB to be is debateable.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29197 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 8:42 am to
quote:

Bray is hands down the best at throwing the football.

everything else, and what you expect a college QB to be is debateable.


So he's Uncle Rico...
Posted by bpfergu
Member since Jun 2011
3485 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 8:55 am to
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I don't know if Shaw is the best in the league but I do know I don't want anyone else.

Bottom line he is the toughest in this league and can be debated the nation. I don't think anyone can really dispute that.


You have to be kidding me. Have you even watched any of our games for the past 2 years? Tyler Wilson gets absolutely clobbered game after game due to our crappy offensive line. In my time watching college football I have never seen a QB get pummeled as badly as he has for as long as he has. It's a miracle he hasn't had more concussions or been seriously injured. The guy is as tough as they come.
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6297 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:12 am to
Tyler Wilson is tough, but his leadership is questionable. He should have been able to keep this team together. Instead he called the team out after a 52 pt beat down at a press conference. Then they proceed to lose to Rutgers.

Posted by bpfergu
Member since Jun 2011
3485 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:23 am to
quote:

Tyler Wilson is tough, but his leadership is questionable. He should have been able to keep this team together. Instead he called the team out after a 52 pt beat down at a press conference. Then they proceed to lose to Rutgers.


Seriously? To me that shows just how good of a leader he is. It was obvious our team and coaches weren't giving it their all during the Bama game. He is the only person who actually showed any emotion after the game and straight up told the rest of the team that they need to step up.

What was he supposed to do? Pat them on the back and say "Good job guys! You gave it your all" when that simply wasn't the case? Being a leader doesn't entail just saying positive things to your team - it also entails critiquing and motivating them when they aren't performing at their best.

Also, it is the coaches job to "keep the team together", not the quarterback. But, as you can obviously tell, we don't have a coach so that makes things difficult.

Finally, losing to Rutgers has nothing to do with Tyler's leadership ability. It has to do with our shitty coaching, lack of conditioning, and a mindset of complacency that has set in since Petrino left.


Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81351 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:26 am to
quote:

07 Tebow v 12 JFF


07 Tebow was a sophomore.
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