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re: SEC CCG to remain in ATL till at least 2027
Posted on 9/7/15 at 4:57 pm to kilo
Posted on 9/7/15 at 4:57 pm to kilo
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I havent avoided shite. You were not talking about a "new stadium" a couple years ago when this got brought up.You are not willing to admit why you honestly like the game in Atlanta. Laughing very hard at Auburn fans talking about "hotels" in Atlanta when its like an 1 1/2 half away.
The game needs to move around a little.
The number 1 reason it does and will stay in ATL is to keep the ACC out. I have heard 3 other cities mentioned and none of them have a similar issue.
Saint Louis keeps nobody out
New Orleans keeps nobody out
Houston keeps nobody out - Like it or not the other TX P5 schools collectively will never allow TAMU the dominate position.
Aside from an ideal location and the MAJOR direct flight SEC hub, ATL is a real competitor city with the ACC and leaving it for even 1 year screws this up. I sincerely hope many on here are just trolling but if you really see moving it, what is your argument for your city over ATL in terms of P5 presence and domination?
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Posted on 9/7/15 at 5:01 pm to Cheese Grits
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The number 1 reason it does and will stay in ATL is to keep the ACC out. I have heard 3 other cities mentioned and none of them have a similar issue.
Nonsense. Do a rotation like I suggested earlier.
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Saint Louis keeps nobody out
New Orleans keeps nobody out
Houston keeps nobody out - Like it or not the other TX P5 schools collectively will never allow TAMU the dominate position.
Aside from an ideal location and the MAJOR direct flight SEC hub, ATL is a real competitor city with the ACC and leaving it for even 1 year screws this up. I sincerely hope many on here are just trolling but if you really see moving it, what is your argument for your city over ATL in terms of P5 presence and domination?
The ACC isnt a threat to the SEC, inside the SEC footprint. Come on dude. I know you are all about this never ending competition between conferences in your mind but in reality there is no threat from the ACC to the SEC inside its footprint.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 5:02 pm to Cheese Grits
gAyTL has too many figs
This post was edited on 9/7/15 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 9/7/15 at 5:04 pm to NolaGoldWave
New Orleans is more fun than Atlanta. I will always think the game should be alternated between Atlanta and New Orleans.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 5:05 pm to prisonpunk
Atlanta,New Orleans and Nashville would be a really good rotation.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 5:06 pm to flyAU
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Nashville? no it is outside in December.
Completely forgot that the Titans stadium is outdoors, even though is was there in the rain at the Titans-Packers preseason game last year. Good point.
I understand the ACC point. Still think it would be fun to go to NoLa, or maybe even Miami or something. Just thinking as a fan.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 5:07 pm to kilo
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The ACC isnt a threat to the SEC, inside the SEC footprint. Come on dude. I know you are all about this never ending competition between conferences in your mind but in reality there is no threat from the ACC to the SEC inside its footprint.
You are incorrect. They have been lost in the wilderness trying to find a good place to hold their game. Atlanta makes as much sense for the ACC as it does the SEC. These agreements are made so that guaranteed revenue is generated. If the SEC says "we will play here every other year" or anything like that, theh ACC would 100% say, yes we will play in ATL every year. This is business and the SEC is extremely smart planting its arse in a brand new stadium as well as making it extremely easy and affordable for fans from all over to go to a game.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 5:10 pm to flyAU
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You are incorrect. They have been lost in the wilderness trying to find a good place to hold their game. Atlanta makes as much sense for the ACC as it does the SEC. These agreements are made so that guaranteed revenue is generated. If the SEC says "we will play here every other year" or anything like that, theh ACC would 100% say, yes we will play in ATL every year. This is business and the SEC is extremely smart planting its arse in a brand new stadium as well as making it extremely easy and affordable for fans from all over to go to a game.
You dont know what the ACC would do or how the negotiations would go between the three parties should that happen. The SEC game is a FAR BIGGER draw that what the ACC would bring to Atlanta. How are we even arguing this? The two are not equal in what they provide in revenue for the Atlanta metro.
As for cost, dont preach to others about coast when you can drive and hour or so to catch the game every years should you choose.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 5:11 pm to Cheese Grits
I have a love / hate relationship with Atlanta. I love the SECCG being played there so I love going there for that weekend. And with the new stadium even better. Any other time, no.
I am born and raised in New Orleans, but truth be told, the only thing this place is good for is the game and the party. Like Atlanta, when I move away, the only time I would come here is for the game and a weekend of party. Otherwise, this city has turned into a shithole ghetto. Sorry, but it's true. The filth, the crime is out of control, and the infrastructure is third world. Moving away for five years opened my eyes...
I am born and raised in New Orleans, but truth be told, the only thing this place is good for is the game and the party. Like Atlanta, when I move away, the only time I would come here is for the game and a weekend of party. Otherwise, this city has turned into a shithole ghetto. Sorry, but it's true. The filth, the crime is out of control, and the infrastructure is third world. Moving away for five years opened my eyes...
Posted on 9/7/15 at 5:21 pm to kilo
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I know you are all about this never ending competition between conferences in your mind
It is not just in my mind, if you got your thumb out of your backside on occasion you would understand this.
Saint Louis is not an SEC town, nor will it ever be. Cardinals dominate and always will. If you look at who lives and works there it is mostly populated by Big 12 and B1G alumni. SEC gains no advantage there
New Orleans is a SEC town and it is a monopoly town like Columbus is a monopoly town for the B1G. Unlike the ATL airport, getting in and out of NOLA is harder and more expensive. I like NOLA and I love BR, but ATL is the better travel option. I say this from experience as I have been to both and often.
Houston is not an SEC town nor will it probably ever be the dominate SEC town as the SWC, Big 12, and pro sports will always hold sway over the SEC dominating the city. While the SEC is full of SEC alumni it is still dwarfed by non SEC alumni including hordes of "t shirt fans" (TAMU expression) for non SEC teams on both the college and pro level.
ATL, from somebody who has lived in GA and still has family both in the city and other parts of the state is loaded with both SEC and ACC fans. While UGA may dominate GT, the city itself is loaded with tons of ACC and SEC alumni. therefore it is a contused city which applies to none of the other 3 mentioned.
I figure you are trolling because you can't be this damned dumb but at least appear to make a Mizzou diploma seem worthwhile in debate and provide a reasonable argument on something you know from actual experience. My Auburn brother has several times attempted to engage you but you still have not given a reasonable response to their questions.
As for the ACC not being a threat, it is because previous SEC leadership has been smart enough to keep them at bay. If you think you are smarter than the collective minds of the mothership in Birmingham I can assure you, you are not.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 5:30 pm to lowspark12
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A dome in Atlanta just makes too much sense... no where else in the SEC footprint as one (unless you count Houston or STL)... Atlanta has one of the largest airports in the world.... relatively centrally located for fans/teams... there's also a history that's developing there, that'll be even stronger come 2027.
Both Houston and Dallas have airports that offer just as many flight options as ATL. Houston & Dallas are further away, but they are not too far that they couldn't host. NOLA also has a great stadium for the event and has a new airport coming. It might not have as many flights as ATL, but nobody would have any problem getting a flight to MSY. NOLA is also driving distance for the same number of teams as ATL is.
ATL is a good location, but to say it is the only location is just wrong.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 5:32 pm to Cheese Grits
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It is not just in my mind, if you got your thumb out of your backside on occasion you would understand this.
You always accuse me of being vitriolic to you, I just think its funny that you always trot out that victim card when its usually you thats starts the name calling and vitriol. quote:
Saint Louis is not an SEC town, nor will it ever be. Cardinals dominate and always will. If you look at who lives and works there it is mostly populated by Big 12 and B1G alumni. SEC gains no advantage there
New Orleans is a SEC town and it is a monopoly town like Columbus is a monopoly town for the B1G. Unlike the ATL airport, getting in and out of NOLA is harder and more expensive. I like NOLA and I love BR, but ATL is the better travel option. I say this from experience as I have been to both and often.
Houston is not an SEC town nor will it probably ever be the dominate SEC town as the SWC, Big 12, and pro sports will always hold sway over the SEC dominating the city. While the SEC is full of SEC alumni it is still dwarfed by non SEC alumni including hordes of "t shirt fans" (TAMU expression) for non SEC teams on both the college and pro level.
ATL, from somebody who has lived in GA and still has family both in the city and other parts of the state is loaded with both SEC and ACC fans. While UGA may dominate GT, the city itself is loaded with tons of ACC and SEC alumni. therefore it is a contused city which applies to none of the other 3 mentioned.
What a load of garbage.
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I figure you are trolling because you can't be this damned dumb but at least appear to make a Mizzou diploma seem worthwhile in debate and provide a reasonable argument on something you know from actual experience. My Auburn brother has several times attempted to engage you but you still have not given a reasonable response to their questions.
More stupid ad hominem nonsense. "But grits is the victim" I have responded to him multiple times. "Your Auburn brother" ah my god. Did you really just say this? Yeah, Mizzou being in the SEC has rustled you up but good.
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As for the ACC not being a threat, it is because previous SEC leadership has been smart enough to keep them at bay. If you think you are smarter than the collective minds of the mothership in Birmingham I can assure you, you are not.
Oh lord man. You have now tied your argument into "thats what the SEC brass is thinking" to validate yourself.
Good lord man.
This post was edited on 9/7/15 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 9/7/15 at 5:36 pm to flyAU
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WeeWee
That is all pretty surprising.
Not really if you think about it. NOLA is a city with a metro area of a million+ ppl, located at the mouth of one of the world's largest rivers, that river allows the port of South Louisiana to be the largest port in the greatest country on earth, has oil and natural gas coming out of our collective anusses and their a multiple interstates and railroad with links to NOLA. What is surprising is how it and all of Louisiana can have all of that and still be in the shape we have been in the last 100 years.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 5:38 pm to WeeWee
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ATL is a good location, but to say it is the only location is just wrong.
I like Atlanta. The whole conversation from my point of view isnt about hating on Atlanta its about variety withing the footprint. I think Atlanta is a great area, there just needs to be some variety. There are diverse areas withing the SEC now and it would serve the conference to embrace that.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 5:44 pm to WeeWee
I ws saying it is surprising that there is only 1 fortune 500 company headquartered there.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 5:44 pm to kilo
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What a load of garbage.
Yet you neither address the points from FlyAU or myself
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This is business and the SEC is extremely smart planting its arse in a brand new stadium as well as making it extremely easy and affordable for fans from all over to go to a game.
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Quote from kilo
You have now tied your argument into "thats what the SEC brass is thinking" to validate yourself.
Not to validate myself but do contradict your argument.
You are arguing you are smarter than the SEC brass and it should move, yet the SEC brass, who actually make the decision has made the long term choice to think your idea is not for the SEC. Instead they have decided to go long term in ATL. A decade from now it will probably get extended for another decade and you will still be wrong about St Louis.
You humor me with your desire to follow me about like a puppy dog.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 5:54 pm to Cheese Grits
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Yet you neither address the points from FlyAU or myself
Sure I have. Multiple times. You have brought out the personal attacks multiple times however. So how is that you are always the "victim" again Grits?
When you start by trotting out "the Cardinals" as a reason for or against St Louis being an "SEC town" I just stopped reading. So the Falcons and Braves and Hawks are not popular in ATL? Come on man. You dont want things called out as being garbage then dont post garbage. Mizzou has a huge ALumni base in St Louis.
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Not to validate myself but do contradict your argument.
So contradicting another argument is a valid form of discourse but when I did with flyAU I "didnt address the points"
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You humor me with your desire to follow me about like a puppy dog.
I was having a discussion in this thread with others that YOU popped into and started blasting my with your BS. I mean, you cant possibly believe that Its somehow me at this point can you Grits? Take a look in the mirror man.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 6:12 pm to kilo
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Sure I have.
No you have not. You go with the vague St Louis is better and say folks like Fly AU and myself who have been around for awhile don't know their own backyard.
I have been to STL and it is a pro town. Behind that the B1G gear I see dominates followed by the Big 12. SEC is just not big there. You can deny it but this does not make a true fact less of a true fact.
Contrast the with ATL. Sure it is a pro town but you see all kinds of SEC and ACC gear around town. You do not see B1G or Big 12 gear. Have you ever lived in ATL or the state of GA? Yet you know more than the folks on here who actually spend time there? How blind are you?
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Mizzou has a huge ALumni base in St Louis.
That is 1 school out of 14 SEC schools. Walking around the city of STL I see Mizzou gear but it is way outnumbered by the collective B1G schools. I see lots of IU and IA gear, hell I even see PSU and OSU gear and they are far from STL. This may change now MU is in the SEC but it will not happen for at least a decade or 2 and that is if Mizzou can win enough to break past a core base.
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I was having a discussion in this thread with others that YOU popped into and started blasting my with your BS.
Hey Sparky, I started this thread so you came here, not the other way around. It must be tough being such an angry person you need to feel big by trolling a college sports board, then deflecting when you get called to point.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 6:18 pm to Cheese Grits
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You go with the vague St Louis is better
Where did I say this or even remotely imply this? Oh my fricking god man you have lost your mind. I even suggested New Orleans/Nashville/Atlanta rotation.
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I have been to STL and it is a pro town. Behind that the B1G gear I see dominates followed by the Big 12. SEC is just not big there. You can deny it but this does not make a true fact less of a true fact.
B1G gear dominates St Louis? Are you serious man? You are saying there is more B1G "gear" worn in St Louis than Mizzou gear?
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Contrast the with ATL. Sure it is a pro town but you see all kinds of SEC and ACC gear around town. You do not see B1G or Big 12 gear. Have you ever lived in ATL or the state of GA? Yet you know more than the folks on here who actually spend time there? How blind are you?
I have been to Atlanta plenty and have family in Alpharetta. But you are some expert on St Louis? I mean, do you really even try to think through all your emotion and see hoe illogical some of the stuff you post really is?
quote:This is a complete lie. I mean unequivocal and blatant lie.
Walking around the city of STL I see Mizzou gear but it is way outnumbered by the collective B1G schools.
quote:Sound familiar "sparky"?
Have you ever lived in STL or the state of MO? Yet you know more than the folks on here who actually spend time there? How blind are you?
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Hey Sparky, I started this thread so you came here, not the other way around.
So what. I wasnt talking or posting with you until you blew in here with your vitriol. Do you think you own the "information on the SECCG discussion here because you started the thread?" Dont ever accuse me of being the one that starts this nonsese between you and I. Its almost always falling on you as the reason things always get nasty. Mr "Victim"
This post was edited on 9/7/15 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 9/7/15 at 6:38 pm to kilo
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When you start by trotting out "the Cardinals" as a reason for or against St Louis being an "SEC town" I just stopped reading.
Because it is a Cardinals town
Here is a link supporting this LINK
Look at the "Costs and Fan Engagement Rank row and Saint Louis is #1 while Atlanta is #12. Pretty clear St Louis is a Cardinals town. Show me a link where Mizzou dominates STL more than Cardinals?
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