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re: SDS Top 25 Coaches

Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:09 am to
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:09 am to
Wait, I thought Cousin Eddie was Jeebus reincarnated. How dare them rank him a lowly 9th. Blasphemy.

Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:21 am to
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Must be something about Florida in general, Urban didn't leave UF in good shape either. Time will tell if Fisher can get to Urban's level at aTm like Urban did at OSU.




But Jimbo played in a two team Conference. At least UF post-Urban was competitive in the East (may not be saying much), FSU is a mess and it is because of Jimbo. Then he goes to A&M and is given too much credit for just beating LSU in a questionable manner. This is a coach that gave away a game against AU, after AU had packed in the season.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:25 am to
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At least UF post-Urban was competitive in the East


they went

8-5 (4-4)
7-6 (3-5)
11-1 (7-1)
4-8 (3-5)

In the 4 years after meyer and never won the division. They really weren't THAT competitive.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:04 pm to
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they went

8-5 (4-4)
7-6 (3-5)
11-1 (7-1)
4-8 (3-5)

In the 4 years after meyer and never won the division. They really weren't THAT competitive.


It was the East, but they were 3rd, 2nd, 5th and 3rd under Muschamp and 1ST,1ST and 5th Under McElwain.
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75410 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:17 pm to
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In the last 20 seasons, Texas A&M has 0 conference titles and 1 season with double-digit wins. I can't, for the life of me, understand why their fan base takes to message boards to talk shite to anyone.


Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15391 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:22 pm to
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25. Gus Malzahn



One of only two current SEC Coaches not named Saban to win an SEC title in the last ten years
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:38 pm to
Isn’t he the only coach in the SEC to have beaten Saban (twice)?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:40 pm to
Gus is kind of an enigma for 100 reasons but 25th is too low. His worst years he goes 8-5 and his best years he wins the West. He's a #15-20 coach. It's just strange how people act like 2013 either (a) didn't happen or (b) was because Gus inherited a bunch of good stuff and it wasn't really because of him (when in fact he inherited the worst Auburn team of the modern era).

Like, how on earth can you rank Malzahn behind Dino Babers or even James Franklin at this moment? Guy is averaging a 9-4 (5-3) season in the SEC West with 2 SEC West Titles, 1 SEC Title and a National Runner Up. The hell have those other guys done that matches that?

I totally get how he would frustrate the hell out of fans of his team but he does get the shaft when it comes to evaluating his overall body of work. Especially compared to others.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 12:44 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86461 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

At least UF post-Urban was competitive in the East


quote:

It was the East, but they were 3rd, 2nd, 5th and 3rd under Muschamp and 1ST,1ST and 5th Under McElwain.


True, but I consider "post-urban" to mean the time directly (as in a full recruiting cycle/4 years) after urban. They were mostly trash in that time but muschamp recruited well enough to leave the cupboard full enough for mcelwain.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

Gus is kind of an enigma for 100 reasons but 25th is too low. His worst years he goes 8-5 and his best years he wins the West. He's a #15-20 coach. It's just strange how people act like 2013 either (a) didn't happen or (b) was because Gus inherited a bunch of good stuff and it wasn't really because of him (when in fact he inherited the worst Auburn team of the modern era).

Like, how on earth can you rank Malzahn behind Dino Babers or even James Franklin at this moment? Guy is averaging a 9-4 (5-3) season in the SEC West with 2 SEC West Titles, 1 SEC Title and a National Runner Up. The hell have those other guys done that matches that?

I totally get how he would frustrate the hell out of fans of his team but he does get the shaft when it comes to evaluating his overall body of work. Especially compared to others.




How many current coaches have coached in a NC Game ? How many coaches have won a Conference Championship in a P5 Conference ? How many current Coaches have won multiple divisional championships in any P5 Conference ?

How many have two of the above ? How many have done all three ?

That is where you start your list after Saban and Dabo.
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