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re: Ryan Day still whining over "non-targeting" aka “Displaced Buckeye Sore Butthole thread”

Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:21 pm to
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:21 pm to
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can't back up anything he says/claims.


He claims
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i don't have to "come up with" anything.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38208 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:23 pm to
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So did I. Does your video have something new?


Refs who agree it was not targeting:

- Pac 12 Replay official

- TV Ref commentator

- Head of Pac 12 officials: “The explanation that was told to me was that it wasn’t forcible enough,” Day said on his conversation with the Pac-12, whose officials were calling the game.

- National Coordinator of Officials Steve Shaw: “I then asked to speak with the head of officials, Steve Shaw. He explained to me that the hit didn’t go right to Marvin’s head. It wasn’t a shot right on his head but to his shoulder."
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 3:24 pm
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
43904 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:23 pm to
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Go for it.
Took me about 15-20 seconds to find this one: "It was targeting. We all know it was targeting. You'd be bitching about it, too."

Seems like you started out hot, arguing about the call rather than talking about the subjective nature of calling penalties in football.

I stopped there, but did you happen to provide a positive argument for why you think it was targeting?
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60642 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:24 pm to
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It’s as clear as (Ryan) Day


Ryan Day colors his hair with
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38208 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:25 pm to
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stopped there, but did you happen to provide a positive argument for why you think it was targeting?


This is the best he could do:

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I don't have to "come up with" anything.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60642 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:25 pm to
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I stopped there, but did you happen to provide a positive argument for why you think it was targeting?




Nope. He changed quickly to it was unnecessary roughness, but can't explain that one, either. The closest I could get was he seems to think a WR in the act of catching a football can't be hit.

BIG 10 soft.
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 3:27 pm
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
43904 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:25 pm to
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No, I'm arguing that our offense that scored 6 times and put up 38 points with him was completely the same.

What do you suppose happens when you don't have to account for Marv Jr.? Your coaches and your defense know this. Why don't you?
Since it doesn't seem like you read the rest of my post, I'll repeat myself in response to your concern about MHJ's impact:

MHJ was absent from the game for three (3) OSU offensive drives.

Specifically, he went out of the game with 35 seconds left in the 3rd quarter and OSU settled for a FG.

From then on, there were three offensive drives, and here they are:

Drive 1: 3 plays, 9 yards, and 1:23 off the clock, resulting in a punt

Drive 2: 11 plays, 45 yards, and 5:58 off the clock, resulting in a FG

Drive 3: 7 plays, 43 yards, and :51 off the clock, resulting in a missed FG that sealed the game

Only one of those two drives was a complete dud. The other two drives had OSU driving the field with the opportunity to put points on the board, and when you analyze those drives, you can see that pressure from UGA was the biggest factor.

So yes, you can talk about 38 points compared to 3 all you like, but when you take a look at the actual drives he was absent for, it's not as impactful as you want to make it.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60642 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:29 pm to


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Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
43904 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:36 pm to
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I'd rather be entertained
It seems that this is at the heart of everything you do on here. You don't want to engage in actual discussion of anything. You want to take pot shots and easy layups and then avoid discussion where it isn't so easy to "win".

At least you're admitting it and it's out in the open for people to see who you are.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 4:08 pm to
K. So no.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38208 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 4:22 pm to
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It seems that this is at the heart of everything you do on here. You don't want to engage in actual discussion of anything. You want to take pot shots and easy layups and then avoid discussion where it isn't so easy to "win". At least you're admitting it and it's out in the open for people to see who you are.


Good summary
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 5:40 pm to
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Good summary


Not really.

You and FooLaneCraig are similar, though. You try to pass subjective bullshite as objective fact. When I point it out, you move onto something else and demand that I have the discussion you want to have.

Not interested in that any more than I'm interested in "winning," whatever the frick that means here.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38208 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 5:49 pm to
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You try to pass subjective bull shite as objective fact.


Refs who agree it was not targeting:

- Pac 12 Replay official

- TV Ref commentator

- Head of Pac 12 officials: “The explanation that was told to me was that it wasn’t forcible enough,” Day said on his conversation with the Pac-12, whose officials were calling the game.

- National Coordinator of Officials Steve Shaw: “I then asked to speak with the head of officials, Steve Shaw. He explained to me that the hit didn’t go right to Marvin’s head. It wasn’t a shot right on his head but to his shoulder."
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38208 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 5:52 pm to
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demand that I have the discussion you want to have.


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I don't have to "come up with" anything.


In other words, you can’t defend your position, the very essence of avoiding the discussion.
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 5:53 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 5:55 pm to
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Refs who agree


Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38208 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 6:01 pm to
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Refs who agree


Of course. Vary between who you ask?

Opinions of Homers, haters, excuse makers, and people who don’t understand the rules

Vs

Opinions of people who matter in the proper enforcement of penalties, and people who understand the rules
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 6:03 pm to
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Opinions of Homers, haters, excuse makers, and people who don’t understand the rules




Look at you pretending these folks aren't on both sides of any discussion.
Posted by Aguga
Member since Aug 2021
3187 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 6:04 pm to
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aren't on both sides of any discussion.


At this point what are you even going on about?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 6:08 pm to
Me: I think the officials were wrong.

Dj: Nuh uh. It was objectively the right call by the officials.

Me: Says who?

Dj: The officials.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
43904 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 6:12 pm to
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Me: I think the officials were wrong.
Where is your positive case for why you think they were wrong? Or is it just your opinion because you want them to be wrong?
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