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re: Recruiting is a trip. Son flipped today and it’s like a divorce.

Posted on 11/11/24 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 3:25 pm to
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Hey do you help break down film and game plan on Sundays? Yes or no question... Or is it Saturdays?
depends on the staff. We do ours 2 pm on Sunday
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 3:41 pm to
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depends on the staff.





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We do ours 2 pm on Sunday



noted
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 3:48 pm to
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maybe I should butcher not understanding a defensive front 6, or 7, and instead call it "a 3 man front" when there's only 3 guys with their hand on the ground


Why would it not be a 3 man front?



Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 3:53 pm to
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Why would it not be a 3 man front?



because fronts include linebackers
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 3:59 pm to
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because fronts include linebackers


There's lots of terms used in football. People say a 3 man or 4 man front when talking about how many down linemen they have. And people say the front 6 or back 7 or whatever the number dictates. He's not wrong when he says a 3 man front because it determines your blocking scheme.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 4:01 pm to
a 4-3 is a seven man front per historic football coaching terminology


some big thinkers might call 4-3 a 6 & a Half man front, and they would not be wrong

same with both on the 3-4


a 4-2-5 is definitely a 6 man front




down and distance come into play per weekly game plans, nickel package is usually considered a 6 man front or 5/half

dime packages are normally considered 5 man fronts, or even 4/half, for instance if you're defending against Mike Leach
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 4:04 pm to
fans have different ways of expressing themselves



coaches use coaching terminology



all fronts determine blocking schemes, and all of those blocking schemes include accounting for the linebackers
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 4:06 pm to
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a 4-3 is a seven


It has different meanings. The 4-3 is talking about the front 7 but it's still a 4 man front because of the number of men on the LOS
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same with both on the 3-4



This would be a 3 man front within the front 7.

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a 4-2-5 is definitely a 6 man front


This would be a 4 man front with 4 men on the LOS.

You're talking about two separate things. The number of men on the LOS and the number of men playing DL and LB
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 4:08 pm to
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all fronts determine blocking schemes, and all of those blocking schemes include accounting for the linebackers


The men on the LOS determine blocking schemes more so than the LBs.
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coaches use coaching terminology



No shite. I'm using coaching terminology.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 4:08 pm to
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a 4-3 is a seven


It has different meanings.




No. It does not.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 4:11 pm to
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No shite. I'm using coaching terminology.



Nope.


A 3-4 is a 7 man front. It doesn't matter that "3 guys have their hand on the ground."

a 3-4 means you have the personnel to have huge fast outside linebackers, larger than the normal 4-3 outside backers


again it's got zero to do with "having your hand on the ground."
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 4:12 pm to
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a 4-3 is a seven


It has different meanings.




No. It does not.


Okay, but it does.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 4:14 pm to
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Nope.


A 3-4 is a 7 man front. It doesn't matter that "3 guys have their hand on the ground."

a 3-4 means you have the personnel to have huge fast outside linebackers, larger than the normal 4-3 outside backers


again it's got zero to do with "having your hand on the ground."


Hot damn, I hope you're trolling
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 4:16 pm to
you're talking in circles

you were moving in the right direction when you considered the blocking scheme. Blocking schemes account for everyone on the defensive front, not just down linemen.

Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 4:18 pm to
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Hot damn, I hope you're trolling





I mean, you're welcome to believe whatever you want
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 4:20 pm to
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The men on the LOS determine blocking schemes more so than the LBs.
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you're talking in circles

you were moving in the right direction when you considered the blocking scheme. Blocking schemes account for everyone on the defensive front, not just down linemen.



Hmm, it's almost like I said exactly that but you read something else.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 4:25 pm to
You literally cannot read

What I said...

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you were moving in the right direction when you considered the blocking scheme. Blocking schemes account for everyone on the defensive front, not just down linemen.


let's be clear this time: the entire defensive front determines the blocking schemes. That of course INCLUDES linebackers.

read
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 4:27 pm to
Do you know why combo blocks exist?

Because linebackers exist.

Drilling down a tiny bit, do you know why chip blocks and scoop blocks exist?

Because linebackers exist.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 4:34 pm to
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Do you know why combo blocks exist?

Because linebackers exist.

Drilling down a tiny bit, do you know why chip blocks and scoop blocks exist?

Because linebackers exist.


You don't think people call it a 3 man front but you're going to question if I know why combo blocks exist
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 4:36 pm to
This is what I said,

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The men on the LOS determine blocking schemes more so than the LBs.


Then why did you feel the need to post this?
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not just down linemen.


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