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re: Ranking the SEC baseball coaches
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:24 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:24 pm to lsufball19
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PM has more SEC titles, SECT titles, wins, conference wins, head to head wins, national titles. Where would you like to start? Van Horn had a 7-23 SEC record a few years ago for goodness sake
Why has DVH been anointed the new GOAT the past couple of days? Did I miss something? He has 1 SEC title in 20 years. Crown him
Wtf,
All I was saying was head to head shouldn't and doesn't effect rankings with 14 people in it unless the margins are super thin
I don't care if someone has Paul ahead of DVH, having him ahead because he "owns him" is very stupid.
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 10:26 pm
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Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:26 pm to VivaZapata27
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Corbins roster stacking because of the shady private school scholarship dealings aside,
You act liek Vandy's situation is something new and exclusive to them. They are not the only private school in Division 1 believe it or not
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he is not the best baseball coach in this league.
Yes, he is
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He wouldn’t win at auburn or Missouri.
Based on what? (Neither would O"Sullivan or DVH for that matter)
Or maybe you can explain to me what makes Arkansas such a difficult job comparative to the rest of the league? Or Florida? Florida is probably the easiest place to win in the SEC but here we are talking about Corbin building a powerhouse from nothing at fricking Vanderbilt and how that's apparently NBD
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 10:30 pm
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:28 pm to rockiee
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having him ahead because he "owns him" is very stupid.
He's owned him on the biggest stages. He's beaten DVH multiple times to clinch SEC titles, SECT titles, and in Omaha. It's really not very stupid at all, at least not in this context
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:29 pm to VivaZapata27
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Corbins roster stacking because of the shady private school scholarship dealings aside, he is not the best baseball coach in this league.
He is up there for sure. And Sullivan has wasted tons of talent during the years. It’s actually amazing how he gets those great pitchers to campus TBH.
PM’s problems have been his shitty hitting coaches, but yes, he probably should have a couple more National Titles considering some of the teams he has had.
I think he has one last run these next 2-3 years.
Not sure how anyone would rank Van Horn above him on accomplishments though.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:30 pm to joshua2571
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Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:33 pm to lsufball19
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He's owned him on the biggest stages. He's beaten DVH multiple times to clinch SEC titles, SECT titles, and in Omaha. It's really not very stupid at all.
Using head to head is very stupid when you have so much more information to use, if it was used to compare two guys alone it would be fine. Not in a ranking of 14 guys, if you used the same logic for all of the coaches you would run into many issues.
Heck, you proved my point on your first response when listing Paul's achievements. It wasn't just his record vs DVH.
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:34 pm to rockiee
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if it was used to compare two guys alone it would be fine.
in that post, it was comparing DVH and PM to one another. So I guess it was fine there right?
Here is that post
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Mainieri sucks but he owns van horn. Has to be above him.
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:35 pm to lsufball19
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So I guess it was fine there right?
No because it was in a response to the 14 coach rankings. If the thread was just DVH> Paul, it would make sense.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:35 pm to rockiee
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Heck, you proved my point on your first response when listing Paul's achievements. It wasn't just his record vs DVH.
Compare his achievements to Corbin/Sullivan, and it’s pretty even.
Van Horn doesn’t compare to those 3
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:35 pm to rockiee
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No because it was in a response to the 14 coach rankings.
It was in response to DVH being ranked above Mainieri
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:36 pm to lsufball19
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It was in response to DVH being ranked above Mainieri
In a 14 coach list
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:37 pm to Wild Thang
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Compare his achievements to Corbin/Sullivan, and it’s pretty even.
Van Horn doesn’t compare to those 3
And I never said DVH should even be above those 3
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:37 pm to rockiee
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rockiee
Is this really the hill you're trying to die on here?
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:38 pm to rockiee
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In a 14 coach list
Why does that matter? Don’t accomplishments still matter?
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:38 pm to Wild Thang
Van Horn took freaking Nebraska to two college World Series. That’s enough for me
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:39 pm to rockiee
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And I never said DVH should even be above those 3
Then what are you arguing?
Are you drunk?
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:39 pm to lsufball19
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Is this really the hill you're trying to die on here?
I am honestly thinking the same thing about you.
The only thing I ever said was the whole x coach owns z coach is dumb logic in a big ranking like this.
List achievements of all and let that be the deciding factor. I even said H2H can apply when its really close.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:40 pm to VivaZapata27
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Van Horn took freaking Nebraska to two college World Series. That’s enough for me
And PM took Notre Dame to them also
I feel like I’m taking crazy pills
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:40 pm to Wild Thang
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Then what are you arguing?
Go back to the start if you don't understand, I said the H2H record is not why Paul should be ahead of DVH
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:41 pm to VivaZapata27
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Van Horn took freaking Nebraska to two college World Series.
Mainieri took freaking Notre Dame to the CWS. Nebraska went again 3-4 years after DVH was gone. Notre Dame has made the NCAAT once since Mainieri left, after making it 8 straight times before he left. He's also responsible for 100% of their all-time conference titles.
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 10:44 pm
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