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Oregon (2010-2014) Counters the Notion That Going Up Tempo Prevents Good Defense
Posted on 12/27/14 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 12/27/14 at 12:01 pm
tl;dr Oregon's defensive greatness is obscured by all the garbage yards and points they've allowed as well as the fact that they play in a conference that's known for some of the country's best offenses.
Oregon gives up more yards and points than the best of the SEC, but that's largely due to two factors.
First, the PAC 12 is geared towards offense; thus Oregon has faced plenty of teams that have no trouble putting up yards or scoring quickly. Contrarily, defense and rushing attacks have been the SEC's highlights.
Second, Oregon is one of those teams that goes up big on most of their opponents, which forces their opposition into passing situations. Teams that are trailing by a large margin will have more passing attempts and get more yards through the air. Additionally, teams typically put in their backups or "let up" after going up several touchdowns.
We sometimes talk about inflated stats. How about the opposite?
One more thing, many posters like to stress yards when making arguments about defenses, but points wins games. A defense that gives up yards but generates many turnovers and limits scoring is not bad.
Oregon's Unadjusted Scoring Defense
CFB Stats
2014: 22.5
2013: 20.5
2012: 21.6
2011: 24.6
2010: 18.7
A team that typically averages 6-7 touchdowns per game in scoring can afford to average giving up 2-3 touchdowns per game.
Oregon gives up more yards and points than the best of the SEC, but that's largely due to two factors.
First, the PAC 12 is geared towards offense; thus Oregon has faced plenty of teams that have no trouble putting up yards or scoring quickly. Contrarily, defense and rushing attacks have been the SEC's highlights.
Second, Oregon is one of those teams that goes up big on most of their opponents, which forces their opposition into passing situations. Teams that are trailing by a large margin will have more passing attempts and get more yards through the air. Additionally, teams typically put in their backups or "let up" after going up several touchdowns.
We sometimes talk about inflated stats. How about the opposite?
One more thing, many posters like to stress yards when making arguments about defenses, but points wins games. A defense that gives up yards but generates many turnovers and limits scoring is not bad.
Oregon's Unadjusted Scoring Defense
CFB Stats
2014: 22.5
2013: 20.5
2012: 21.6
2011: 24.6
2010: 18.7
A team that typically averages 6-7 touchdowns per game in scoring can afford to average giving up 2-3 touchdowns per game.
Posted on 12/27/14 at 12:05 pm to Cumulonimbus
And pretty much every other up tempo team confirms it. Common sense also confirms it. Oregon is the exception, not the rule.
This post was edited on 12/27/14 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 12/27/14 at 12:17 pm to The_Joker
But what happens when they meet a real D?
Posted on 12/27/14 at 12:32 pm to The_Joker
Ole Miss all but killed the up tempo play calling this season in an attempt to keep the defense rested.
Posted on 12/27/14 at 1:05 pm to Dlab2013
Washington has three All American type players on D, and may have 3 players on taken in the first round. Not a real D?
UCLA not a real D?
UCLA not a real D?
Posted on 12/27/14 at 1:23 pm to Volmanac
If Oregon meets Bama in the championship they will see a real D. You can also find one in my pants
Posted on 12/27/14 at 1:33 pm to The_Joker
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And pretty much every other up tempo team confirms it. Common sense also confirms it. Oregon is the exception, not the rule.
I partially agree. I felt such when making this topic; however, there's also the chance that most HUNH teams don't pay attention to the defensive side of the ball.
I'd be interested in seeing a graphical or tabular analysis of those teams defensive recruiting, evaluation, etc.
On another note, how many good defensive coordinators are out there? The game has shifted towards offense, and I'd think most teams either don't place emphasis on defense or aren't able to recruit with the big schools like Alabama, LSU, Florida, Georgia, etc. that sweep up most of the highly rated defensive talent.
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