re: One of these was targeting, one wasn’t

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Think about how pissed Clemson fans were after that call. Maybe, you will realize it’s not all some giant conspiracy and judgment calls are tough and controversial and sometimes they go your way and sometimes they don’t.

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I appreciate your empathy over the no call on obvious targeting.

Weak

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One was a defenseless player.

One was not.

I’ll let you use your 2 brain cells to try and figure it out.

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Now, it's starting to make sense. LSU fans incessant whining about officiating is because they simply don't know the rules about which they are whining.

The two crown of the helmet hits in the OP have ZERO to do with whether a player is defenseless. Defenseless player is not even mentioned in the rule AT ALL.

The targeting rule at issue here is Rule 9-1-3:

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No player shall target and make forcible contact against an opponent with the crown of his helmet. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul.

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Has nothing to do with a player being defenseless or not. (please note that the "indicators of targeting" in Note 1 of the rule say nothing about a player being defenseless either).

That is completely different than Rule 9-1-4 which deals with making forcible contact to head or neck area of a defenseless player.

Glad I could help you.

Now you’re resorting to gifs with no substance.

Double weak

Are you gay?

No, but

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Do you want me to post the entire rule?

I didn’t think so since that doesn’t fit your narrative.

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I'll do it for you. Trust me, you don't want to keep going here. It's okay to admit your shot off in your first post with the completely wrong analysis because you didn't understand the rule. You can use this as an opportunity to better yourself and learn. Or not. Your choice.

The full targeting rules.

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9-1-3. Targeting and Making Forcible Contact With the Crown of the Helmet
ARTICLE 3. No player shall target and make forcible contact against an opponent with the crown of his helmet. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul. (Rule 9-6) (A.R. 9-1-3-I)

9-1-4. Targeting and Making Forcible Contact to Head or Neck Area of a Defenseless Player
ARTICLE 4. No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent (See Note 2 below) with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul (Rules 2-27-14 and 9-6). (A.R. 9-1-4-I-VI)

Note 1: “Targeting” means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball. Some indicators of targeting include but are not limited to:
• Launch—a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area
• A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground
• Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
• Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet

Note 2: Defenseless player (Rule 2-27-14). When in question, a player is defenseless. Examples of defenseless players include but are not limited to:
• A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass.
• A receiver attempting to catch a forward pass or in position to receive a backward pass, or one who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier.
• A kicker in the act of or just after kicking a ball, or during the kick or the return.
• A kick returner attempting to catch or recover a kick, or one who has completed a catch or recovery and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier.
• A player on the ground.
• A player obviously out of the play.
• A player who receives a blind-side block.
• A ball carrier already in the grasp of an opponent and whose forward progress has been stopped.
• A quarterback any time after a change of possession
• A ball carrier who has obviously given himself up and is sliding feetfirst.

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One guy buried the crown of his helmet in the other guys chest. In the video the helmet never touches anything.

Why lie?

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BamaScoop

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Oh nvm