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re: Ok Bama and Texas fans, let's hear it...
Posted on 11/20/23 at 11:56 am to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 11/20/23 at 11:56 am to SummerOfGeorge
George, pull out the advanced stats homeboy and let us all see how the teams are ranked. Where Alabama fits in relation to Texas and then we can all discuss the "eye test".
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Posted on 11/20/23 at 11:58 am to Pandy Fackler
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Alabama's a better team than Texas.
... and Michigan, FSU, Washington. Eye test isn't the only criteria.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 11:59 am to PerrillouxToTexas
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Eye test isn't the only criteria
In all seriousness, has there been any updates to the simulated BCS standings after Saturday?
I'd just be curious to see where the computers rank these teams.
Not that it really matters, but maybe it would highlight a metric or two that's not being considered by the committee.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 11:59 am to Darindawg
Texas beat us head to head. Yes we are a better team. But they did beat us. Would love to have e a opportunity to play again. That's what's great about CF. Now next tr will be great for fans.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 11:59 am to PerrillouxToTexas
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there's no argument
Agree head to head will win out.
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anyone who disagrees is being intentionally obtuse.
I disagree; if you go by what the committee espouses, it is about the best 4 teams at season's end. There is an argument that if Team A beats Team B early in the season, both finish with similar records, but Team A substantially declines in competivess or something significant occurs (FSU QB injury and unk performance moving forward, for example) while Team B is markedly improved, Team B should be considered ahead of Team A.
Psu winning the BIG and passing UM in final polls after UM trounced PSU is a good example. The conference title overcame the head to head loss. Obviously, in this scenario, both Bama and UTx are conference champs, so unless something substantial happens, UTx is in.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 12:00 pm to Pandy Fackler
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George, pull out the advanced stats homeboy and let us all see how the teams are ranked. Where Alabama fits in relation to Texas and then we can all discuss the "eye test".
Alabama
#7 SP+
#10 FEI
#6 KF Power
Texas
#8 SP+
#11 FEI
#10 KF Power
This post was edited on 11/20/23 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 11/20/23 at 12:01 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Our best bet is for FSU to lose and for Washington to lose this weekend or to Oregon. Our chances at winning a 12-1 debate vs Oregon are much better than Texas.
This ^^
Posted on 11/20/23 at 12:01 pm to Darindawg
well,its not black and white. We're assuming here that Texas and Alabama win Saturday, no issues,no injuries,etc..
Let's say Texas beats Okie State 41-38 in overtime. Let's say Alabama defeats #1 Georgia 38-21.
Head to head counts and should count. But if we are REALLY going after the FOUR best teams would you testify in court that Texas was better than Alabama?
Let's say Texas beats Okie State 41-38 in overtime. Let's say Alabama defeats #1 Georgia 38-21.
Head to head counts and should count. But if we are REALLY going after the FOUR best teams would you testify in court that Texas was better than Alabama?
Posted on 11/20/23 at 12:02 pm to Che Boludo
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if you go by what the committee espouses, it is about the best 4 teams at season's end.
why do people keep saying this? It's never been about 4 best teams. Ever.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 12:02 pm to I-59 Tiger
I will say - I find it very hard to believe that a 12-1 Alabama team that beats Georgia (on a 27 game win streak) in the SECCG is going to get left out. It's just hard to believe that would happen.
But, everything has lined up in a way that seems to make that a possibility. It's just hard to fathom.
But, everything has lined up in a way that seems to make that a possibility. It's just hard to fathom.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 12:02 pm to Darindawg
Your ranking teams based on how they are on December 3rd not in September.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 12:05 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I find it very hard to believe that a 12-1 Alabama team that beats Georgia
well,because of the loss to Texas I think it'd have to be 10 or more points.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 12:06 pm to I-59 Tiger
It'd be much more frustrating to me to see Florida State, with basically 2 ranked games all year, or even Michigan, with a home game vs Ohio State and absolutely nothing else, there than Texas.
This post was edited on 11/20/23 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 11/20/23 at 12:06 pm to StopRobot
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Your ranking teams based on how they are on December 3rd not in September.
lol
so 75% of your games played are irrelevant? We should just ignore the majority of your overall body of work and only look at the last 3 weeks?
Your resume is your resume. Good, bad, whatever. Injuries or healthy. Wins and losses. Blowouts and nailbiters. It all counts the exact same and it's literally why we play the games. Something tells me that if the outcome of that game was reversed and bama had a loss to like ole miss instead, yall woudl be propped up that big win over texas as a reason you should make the playoffs.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 12:06 pm to WG_Dawg
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It's never been about 4 best teams. Ever.
That is the party line, but their words and deeds do not match.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 12:07 pm to WG_Dawg
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why do people keep saying this? It's never been about 4 best teams. Ever.
The published CFP protocols literally say that it is about the 4 best teams. They may not follow their protocols but that is literally what it says.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 12:07 pm to WG_Dawg
Yea I don't understand why people say things like "4 best teams". That isn't how they do it. It's the 4 teams with the best resumes. Almost always has been. If somebody slipped up and said "best teams" at some point, they were wrong.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 12:08 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
This post was edited on 11/20/23 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 11/20/23 at 12:08 pm to Che Boludo
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That is the party line, but their words and deeds do not match.
Well I staunchly disagree because their deeds have literally backed that up 100%. I mean hell look at less than 12 months ago with your team...TCU made it over bama because the resumes/body of work are paramount. Bama was a better team and would likely have whooped them, your coach even pleaded about "would vegas favor anyone to beat us?" but that was irrelevant.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 12:09 pm to Darindawg
In past years, the rule was ... If you have to lose, do it early in the season.
The funny thing is ...
It wasn't even Texas which dropped the Tide. Bama fell to 8 and may not have fallen more ... until that little social experiment occurred at Central Florida.. which was somewhat self-inflicted.
They won but continued to fall, outside the top-10.
The funny thing is ...
It wasn't even Texas which dropped the Tide. Bama fell to 8 and may not have fallen more ... until that little social experiment occurred at Central Florida.. which was somewhat self-inflicted.
They won but continued to fall, outside the top-10.
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