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re: Nick Saban at LSU compared to Nick Saban at Alabama
Posted on 10/5/19 at 12:32 am to TideOverride
Posted on 10/5/19 at 12:32 am to TideOverride
Use a search engine you geriatric dullard
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Posted on 10/5/19 at 12:32 am to Tau Neutrino
How can this be true:
And this also be true:
If Saban "made" Bama, there wouldn't have been a history there for him to build on. He made LSU. He did not make Bama.
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Saban made BAMA. Not the other way around.
And this also be true:
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Saban brought your program back from irrelevancy. He is the man who cemented BAMA's legacy as the sole greatest CFB program since this beautiful sport's conception in the late 19th century.
If Saban "made" Bama, there wouldn't have been a history there for him to build on. He made LSU. He did not make Bama.
Posted on 10/5/19 at 12:35 am to Tuscaloosa
He's added more titles in ten seasons than how many of the other previous ones?
Posted on 10/5/19 at 12:37 am to Tau Neutrino
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He's added more titles in ten seasons than how many of the other previous ones?
Again, building on a foundation that was laid in the 1920s by a couple of guys named Wallace Wade and Frank Thomas, and adding on to the mansion, albeit outdated and in dire need of a renovation - built by Paul W. Bryant.
Posted on 10/5/19 at 12:39 am to Tau Neutrino
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Very close! I was born in '94.
While true that Alabama is the best program in history, y'all were in a serious drought after '92. Saban brought your program back from irrelevancy. He is the man who cemented BAMA's legacy as the sole greatest CFB program since this beautiful sport's conception in the late 19th century.
I stand by my claim: Saban made BAMA. Not the other way around.
No, that is not a truthful statement. Alabama was the very best college football team America had ever witnessed before Saban arrived.
Switch to another topic.
Posted on 10/5/19 at 12:40 am to Tuscaloosa
Agree to disagree, then. Alabama would be in [almost] as bad of shape as Tennessee today if it weren't for that hire.
Emphasis on almost- Alabama's AD doesn't let the mob pull the strings. Of course, in 2007, the mob couldn't stage a coup via social media.
Emphasis on almost- Alabama's AD doesn't let the mob pull the strings. Of course, in 2007, the mob couldn't stage a coup via social media.
Posted on 10/5/19 at 12:40 am to Tau Neutrino
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Use a search engine you geriatric dullard
What are mad about?
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Posted on 10/5/19 at 12:40 am to TideOverride
Oh look, the village idiot keeps coming back.
Posted on 10/5/19 at 12:42 am to Tau Neutrino
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Agree to disagree, then. Alabama would be in [almost] as bad of shape as Tennessee today if it weren't for that hire.
Emphasis on almost- Alabama's AD doesn't let the mob pull the strings. Of course, in 2007, the mob couldn't stage a coup via social media.
You are living in a dream world. Alabama has always been better than Tennessee, before sweet 'Lil Nicky was even born.
Posted on 10/5/19 at 12:42 am to Tau Neutrino
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Oh look, the village idiot keeps coming back.
What's wrong?
Posted on 10/5/19 at 12:43 am to Tau Neutrino
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Agree to disagree, then.
There is really nothing to disagree about. You can make an unarguable statement that he resurrected our program. There is not a way to factually argue that he "made" a program who already had the richest history in the sport prior to his arrival.
Posted on 10/5/19 at 12:45 am to TideOverride
Eh, very slightly so. If you'd like to go back in time and compare, we can. You have more NC's, but the all-time record prior to TN's death was neck-and-neck. But the hardware makes a program more prominent.
I only consider our true NC's to be 1951 and 1998. The others, like 1967, are rubbish to me.
I only consider our true NC's to be 1951 and 1998. The others, like 1967, are rubbish to me.
Posted on 10/5/19 at 12:49 am to Tau Neutrino
So did Phil Fulmer make Tennessee?
Posted on 10/5/19 at 12:49 am to Tuscaloosa
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There is not a way to factually argue that he "made" a program who already had the richest history in the sport prior to his arrival.
Nobody would be talking about Alabama today if it weren't for Saban. Remember the aughts?
A great comparison is Tennessee. Tennessee's hardware is just some fascinating history at this point. Tennessee may be historically elite, but would you consider Tenn elite right now? Absolutely not. We haven't been elite for 15 years.
Likewise, had Alabama not won anything since 1992, you could not say that Alabama is a prominent CFB program.
Posted on 10/5/19 at 12:55 am to Tuscaloosa
Yes, he did. Tennessee's success is pretty much attached that guy. His name alone supplements all of our good memories. When a Tennessee fan thinks of the name Fulmer, he or she envisions the glory days. That's how he wound up as the AD- Joe Sixpack and Son up on Moonshine Mountain thought he could resurrect the good old times of Tennessee football.
Anyways, this was an intriguing discussion. I'm about to fall asleep. I enjoyed our conversation.
Anyways, this was an intriguing discussion. I'm about to fall asleep. I enjoyed our conversation.
This post was edited on 10/5/19 at 12:56 am
Posted on 10/5/19 at 12:56 am to Tau Neutrino
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Likewise, had Alabama not won anything since 1992, you could not say that Alabama is a prominent CFB program
Won the SEC in 1999, finished in the Top 10 in 2005.
I'm not disagreeing with your stance that Alabama was in the dumps when he arrived. However, the very fact that Bama was the winningest program in the SEC prior to his arrival debunks the idea that Saban "made" them. He resurrected the program. He did not make it from scratch.
Posted on 10/5/19 at 12:57 am to Tau Neutrino
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Nobody would be talking about Alabama today if it weren't for Saban. Remember the aughts?
A great comparison is Tennessee. Tennessee's hardware is just some fascinating history at this point. Tennessee may be historically elite, but would you consider Tenn elite right now? Absolutely not. We haven't been elite for 15 years.
Likewise, had Alabama not won anything since 1992, you could not say that Alabama is a prominent CFB program.
If you can't see the absurdity in stating that Saban MADE Alabama, you likely can't be reasoned with.
Bear Bryant didn't make Alabama any more than Saban did. Alabama already had a very rich history of winning and dominating not only the SEC, but many other teams around the nation, before Bryant arrived.
You've just made a stupid claim that can't be backed up. Just let it die and take the loss.
Posted on 10/5/19 at 12:59 am to Tau Neutrino
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Yes, he did. Tennessee's success is pretty much attached that guy.
I think General Robert Neyland would have something to say about that. Probably Johnny Majors, too.
Posted on 10/5/19 at 1:00 am to Tau Neutrino
Save some time Tau - only respond to his main account.
Posted on 10/5/19 at 1:02 am to Tuscaloosa
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I think General Robert Neyland would have something to say about that. Probably Johnny Majors, too.
15-20 year old people probably have never heard of Neyland or realize that Tennessee was MADE well before Fulmer arrived.
It's not their fault they don't understand as they have never been shown or taught about history.
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