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Posted on 10/1/20 at 6:28 pm to
Posted by NittanyLion
Nashville
Member since Nov 2017
629 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 6:28 pm to
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I know the player himself didnt know what Orgeron knew so there's no way a girl who wasn't even on his team would know.



You don't know either of those things.

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Only one, the girlfriend has no verifiable link to Orgeron and doesn't claim that he covered up or knew anything.


Not true. She is/was dating on of his players. Not sure you know what a link is.

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The player himself doesn't even claim Orgeron covered anything up.


The player thinks Orgeron knew about it. Orgeron denies it. By definition, that's a cover up.

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I mean I'll guess I'll say it for the third time.


Saying it more doesn't make it true.

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The girl, player, and Orgeron can be all telling the truth here at the same time.


Yeah, maybe.

Maybe...
Posted by NittanyLion
Nashville
Member since Nov 2017
629 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 6:29 pm to
Also, there's no way that you have 12k posts in less than a year, and are anything more than a troll.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66043 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 6:41 pm to
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You don't know either of those things.



Actually I do because I know stuff about the situation that you dont and I'm not going to post here but thats beside the point.

The player didn't know what Orgeron actually knew or didn't. The player admitted this.

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Not true. She is/was dating on of his players. Not sure you know what a link is.


The kid wasn't "his player" when the incident happened.

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The player thinks Orgeron knew about it. Orgeron denies it. By definition, that's a cover up.



False.

By definition, a "cover up" is an attempt to prevent people's discovering the truth about a serious mistake or crime. There's no proof that Orgeron did any of those things. By accusing him with no proof yet refusing to condemn Penn State in a situation that has been proven, you show your true hypocrisy.

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Saying it more doesn't make it true.



Maybe saying it more doesn't make it true but my statement stands as fact. All three parties here can be speaking honestly here at the same time. By insisting that anyone who thinks Orgeron didnt know is calling the girl or the player a liar, you're simply building a strawman.

But as I've said many times, I understand you wanting to deflect from your own situation.
Posted by NittanyLion
Nashville
Member since Nov 2017
629 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 6:46 pm to
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Actually I do because I know stuff about the situation that you dont and I'm not going to post here


Lol. Classic.

I'm sure you've got the inside info.

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when the incident happened


Who the frick cares.

He was his player when they had the conversation about it.

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By definition, a "cover up" is an attempt to prevent people's discovering the truth about a serious mistake or crime. There's no proof that Orgeron did any of those things. 


Lying about what he knew is an attempt to prevent people from discovering the truth.

And there's evidence, even if you don't like it.

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All three parties here can be speaking honestly here at the same time. 


Sure. Maybe...

Maybe that's it.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66043 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 6:48 pm to
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He was his player when they had the conversation about it.


They never had a conversation about the incident itself, you're confused.

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Lying about what he knew is an attempt to prevent people from discovering the truth


Cool.

If there was any proof he lied.
Posted by NittanyLion
Nashville
Member since Nov 2017
629 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 6:51 pm to
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They never had a conversation about the incident itself


Right, because you're an insider.

Lol at you.

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If there was any proof he lied.


There's evidence.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66043 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 6:55 pm to
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Right, because you're an insider.

Lol at you.


Interesting that you claim they had a conversation about the incident yet the player doesnt know if Orgeron actually knew it was non consensual and the player doesnt know how Orgeron would've found out about it.

Your alleged conversation apparently didn't include much information.

The player also apparently didn't feel the need to inform Orgeron that it was a non consensual encounter during this alleged conversation.

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There's evidence.


No proof.
Posted by NittanyLion
Nashville
Member since Nov 2017
629 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 6:57 pm to
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Your alleged conversation apparently didn't include much information.


It's only alleged if the player and Orgeron are both making it up.

That'd be really odd.

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No proof.


But there is evidence, and evidence is all that's needed.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66043 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 6:58 pm to
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It's only alleged if the player and Orgeron are both making it up.

That'd be really odd.


They both say a conversation happened but it wasn't about the rape as you claim, it was about the player transferring.

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But there is evidence, and evidence is all that's needed.


All thats needed for what exactly?
Posted by NittanyLion
Nashville
Member since Nov 2017
629 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 7:04 pm to
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They both say a conversation happened but it wasn't about the rape as you claim, it was about the player transferring.


That isn't what the player says.

Are you saying he's a liar.

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All thats needed for what exactly?


An investigation, for starters.
Posted by OliverQueen81
In The South
Member since Oct 2015
10695 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 7:10 pm to
Wasn't born yet!
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66043 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 7:11 pm to
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An investigation, for starters.






They tried to start one, the girl wouldnt cooperate.
Posted by NittanyLion
Nashville
Member since Nov 2017
629 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 7:12 pm to
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They tried to start one, the girl wouldnt cooperate.



So what.

That absolves no one of their responsibility.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66043 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 7:14 pm to
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So what.

That absolves no one of their responsibility.






What could they have investigated? They had no information
Posted by NittanyLion
Nashville
Member since Nov 2017
629 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 7:17 pm to
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What could they have investigated? They had no information


You investigate everything.

In fact, when something like this is reported, they're legally required to investigate, whether the victim "cooperates" or not. And despite your supposed insider information, I say that you're full of shite. So do both victims.

They had plenty of information.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66043 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 7:17 pm to
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You investigate everything.

In fact, when something like this is reported, they're legally required to investigate, whether the victim "cooperates" or not. And despite your supposed insider information, I say that you're full of shite. So do both victims.

They had plenty of information.


She never reported it.
Posted by NittanyLion
Nashville
Member since Nov 2017
629 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 7:21 pm to
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She never reported it.


Not according to both victims.
Posted by NittanyLion
Nashville
Member since Nov 2017
629 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 7:22 pm to
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According to the women and six friends and family members interviewed by USA TODAY, school officials at the time didn’t believe the women and provided questionable explanations as to why their alleged assaults wouldn’t be investigated. The women said no one from the university interviewed them or potential witnesses about the allegations. 

The former tennis player said that her alleged rape was reported to the school’s Title IX office but that it was never investigated.

Posted by NittanyLion
Nashville
Member since Nov 2017
629 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 7:22 pm to
Go ahead.

Call them liars.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66043 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 7:24 pm to
I'll say it again, the player's girlfriend never reported her assault.

You're confusing yourself.
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