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re: Most infamous games in SEC since 1992

Posted on 4/30/14 at 3:34 am to
Posted by DoreonthePlains
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 3:34 am to
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Yes I know the word in here, just an example, humor me till we get to the next two.


You need to note that the touching of the pass must occur prior to the contact being made. That is pretty clear in the rule statements.

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And a legal forward pass is defined as a catchable ball


Actually, if you look in the defintions section of the rulebook, a legal forward pass does not have to be a catchable pass. It is literally any pass which moves from behind the neutral zone across the neutral zone.

Also 9K is a reference to another rule that is not pass interference, so the pass being tipped and other criteria governing PI do not apply. It simply governs any time when disregard for a forward pass is made to hit another player. Its intention may be for "unsportmanlike" plays, but by the letter of the law, it applies here.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 3:40 am to
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You need to note that the touching of the pass must occur prior to the contact being made. That is pretty clear in the rule statements.


Again just noting them. D and c apply here.

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Actually, if you look in the defintions section of the rulebook, a legal forward pass does not have to be a catchable pass. It is literally any pass which moves from behind the neutral zone across the neutral zone.


Go back to your copy and paste of the rule. It is defined as a catchable pass in pi scenarios. It clearly states it.


Like I said go read d and c. But really c. For some reason it keeps getting glossed over even though it defines the situation and the qualifiers. Like I've stated numerous times the catchability is the question here. Not the rule. It's clearly defined as having two aspects. If you want to say it was catchable. That's fine. I don't believe it for a second. But to question the clearly defined rule with assumptions from other aspects is not the way to go.

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c. Defensive players legally may contact opponents who have crossed the neutral zone if the opponents are not in a position to receive a catchable forward pass. 1. Those infractions that occur during a down in which a forward pass crosses the neutral zone are pass interference infractions only if the receiver had the opportunity to receive a catchable forward pass.


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d. Pass interference rules apply only during a down in which a legal forward pass crosses the neutral zone-

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When in question, a legal forward pass is catchable.

Eta and just some clarification on part 2 of c, I didn't include because it's in regards to passes behind the los
This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 3:50 am
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 3:46 am to
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"now, I'm surprised, there could have been a flag thrown on that play"

"coulda?"

"David Irons was hanging on him pretty good"

"Boy, Auburn got away"

"Auburn got away with one"


that basically summed up the entire game for me

Especially considering the PI called on LSU on the sidelines is almost literally the exact same play.. as "the play".
This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 3:48 am
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 3:50 am to
While we're at it.. the controversial call that lead to the mulligan bowl..

Still not sure he missed it
This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 3:51 am
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 3:52 am to
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Especially considering the PI called on LSU on the sidelines is almost literally the exact same play.. as "the play".


Similar yes, except the second qualifier was clearly met. I believe. Would have to watch it again, but recall it from the last time this was brought up.
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 3:53 am to
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Still not sure he missed it


By rule, isn't it good if it goes directly over the upright? That definitely looked like it went over the upright, and I remember thinking so at the time.
Posted by auburnphan23
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 3:54 am to
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lol @ arguing with an auburn fan. They're part of the majority of these infamous games, but will never admit they're the luckiest team in the nation.

Gerorgia sucks so much you can not even take advantage of bogus calls from the referees. Just look at last years Auburn-Georgia game where Aaron Murray was given credit for a touchdown he really did not score and Georgia still lost the game anyway
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 3:55 am to
Yeah that was close, haven't ever read fg rules. I wish they had better cameras on the goal post. It's not that hard to have two small cameras in each endzone.
Posted by 870Hog
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 3:59 am to
Im still angry about phantom fumbles 1 & 2 against yall when yall won the NC. Cheatin bastids.
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 4:03 am to
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Yeah that was close, haven't ever read fg rules. I wish they had better cameras on the goal post. It's not that hard to have two small cameras in each endzone.


shite this is 2014, how about a few fricking lasers or sensors on the balls? Why do we have outdated shite like two refs under the goal? Let them police players.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 4:06 am to
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shite this is 2014, how about a few fricking lasers or sensors on the balls? Why do we have outdated shite like two refs under the goal? Let them police players.


They just built a multi story driving range by my house. All the ball have gps chips in them so you can essentially plays games at the range. If the can do it for a golf ball, they can do it for anything.

But really four go pro cameras is all they need.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 4:07 am to
Or the fumble we recovered but mysteriously didn't give it to us. Then immediately richt was given the mystery flag? For a corrupt university known for cheating, you'd think y'all would be up by more than just one game. 2 in a row in auburn....
Posted by auburnphan23
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 4:14 am to
I laugh at several of the fans in this thread bitching about the referees, because several of these same fans have received bogus calls against Auburn in their favor and still lost to Auburn anyway.

I have already mentioned the Aaron Murray play in last years Auburn and Georgia game.

Nick Fairley received a bogus personal foul penalty against Alabama in 2010 that gave them a first down and eventually led to an Alabama tocuchdown. Spencer Tillman of CBS called the personal foul against Fairley the worst call he has ever seen in his entire life. Of course Alabama still lost this game anyway

Vanderbilt also received credit for a bogus touchdown against Auburn a few years ago and still lost the game anyway

Tennessee scored a touchdown against Auburn back in 2003 and replays eventually showed Tennessee's offense had 12 players on the field when this touchdown was scored. Of course Tennessee still lost this game anyway

This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 4:26 am
Posted by olddawg26
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 4:17 am to
A ref threw a flag for targeting before the hit even happened, and it wasn't targeting. It reset the downs, kicked off a 1st string player, and lost the game,
Posted by auburnphan23
Member since Jan 2014
5862 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 4:18 am to
Yeah Auburn is known for cheating, yet Georgia's football program and men's basketball program have both been on probation more recently than Auburn's football program.

A Georgia professor named Jan Kemp also claims Georgia cheated to win the only legitimate national championship they have ever won in their entire history



This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 4:20 am
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 4:20 am to
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By rule, isn't it good if it goes directly over the upright? That definitely looked like it went over the upright, and I remember thinking so at the time.


Did a quick search. All I saw was the goal post act as a line not a plane and the ball must pass between and Above them(crossbar). So I guess the question is, does the line start from the outside or inside. If it were to be at post level it would not go through.
This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 4:22 am
Posted by olddawg26
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 4:31 am to
Lulz
Posted by bmy
Nashville
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 4:55 am to
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Did a quick search. All I saw was the goal post act as a line not a plane and the ball must pass between and Above them(crossbar). So I guess the question is, does the line start from the outside or inside. If it were to be at post level it would not go through.


and is it just a part of the ball that has to cross? that's what i would assume.
Posted by adawgj
Brunswick
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 5:25 am to
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ref executing a WWE takedown of Garcia to cost us the game, yea that's what happened. Damn refs.


One of the funniest plays I have ever seen. Garcia got up and was like, "WTF is up with this guy"?
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:58 am to
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NYCAuburn


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The funny thing people/fans are letting facts get in the way of what they wished would have happened.


Regardless of your 10 pages of argumentative posts and witty emoticons, that was PI. I realize you believe deep down in your heart that Auburn had a righteous win over LSU in 06, but if you watch and rewatch that game and think that it was clean and the refs made all the right calls then you could not be more wrong.
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