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re: Most delusional fanbase isn't Bama.....it's Arkansas

Posted on 9/15/09 at 3:32 pm to
Posted by woopiginaustin
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 3:32 pm to
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Are you not responding to what he says for a reason because you just copy the same shite over and over after he puts it down?


He has only addressed me once. You have your posters mixed up.

I have 3 or 4 posts that have yet to be addressed so I keep reposting them for him.

Responding to someone else, or dishing out a strawman argument isn't responding to me.
Posted by woopiginaustin
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 3:37 pm to
There is this

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Can you send me a link to an Arkansas fan calling the SWC the SEC?

You made invalid assertions, or maybe just assertions that left out credible facts pertaining to the debate, and I challenged you to back it up.

Don't take it personal.

Arkansas last 30 years in the SWC saw 5 schools with 35 TOP 10 finishes.

It wasn't elite if that is what you are waiting for. But it damn sure wasn't the Sun Belt either.


There is this

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In the 60's, the SWC had a team in the top 10 in every season but 1967, with 3 different schools accounting for 14 top ten finishes in 10 years (Arkansas - 7, texass - 6, SMU - 1). Three national championships were won by the conference (Arkansas - 1964, texass - 1963, texass - 1969).



In the 70's, the SWC had a team in the top 10 every season but 1971 and 1974, with 5 different schools accounting for 14 top ten finishes in 10 years (texass - 5, Houston - 4, Arkansas - 3, texass tech - 1, texass A&M - 1).




In the first half of the 80's, before violations and investigations castrated the league, the SWC had a team in the top ten every year but 1980, with 4 different schools accounting for 7 top ten finishes in 6 years (SMU - 3, texass - 2, Arkansas - 1, texass A&M - 1).




The champion of the SWC would play in the Cotton Bowl each year. The winner of the Cotton Bowl would be named national champion by at least one organization 10 times from 1960-1979. The Cotton Bowl, the home of the SWC Champion, was unquestionably one of the premier bowl games in America during it's heydey.



There is this

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The SWC had a team finish in the Top 10 all but FOUR SEASONS from 60-89 ('67, '71, '74, '80)




Take a crack at any of them but don't respond like a woman with words I never used, comments I never made, or some strawman argument about how LSU has greener grass.

The bottom line is the SWC wasn't elite. It was average most years, great several.

This post was edited on 9/15/09 at 3:39 pm
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

woopiginaustin
Dude, you have to be patient. I can't answer you every 9 seconds.
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Can you send me a link to an Arkansas fan calling the SWC the SEC?
I don't understand this question, or rather, its purpose. I can't send you such a link, nor do I think I've made such a claim. Perhaps I committed a typographical error? "E" is next to "W" on a qwerty.
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Arkansas last 30 years in the SWC saw 5 schools with 35 TOP 10 finishes.
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It wasn't elite if that is what you are waiting for.
Of course it wasn't. The SEC, Big Ten, AAWU/PCC/Pac-10, and Big 8 were better. Some argue that the ACC was better (I do not; frick that conference).
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 3:38 pm to
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we only gave up like 210 yards last week

vandy.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 3:39 pm to
what post?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 3:40 pm to
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vandy


still, we never looked that good on D at any time last year regardless of opponent.
Posted by woopiginaustin
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 3:40 pm to
I'll give you that most of the time the SEC and Big 10 were producing a better product.

But to trash the SWC the way you do is intellectually dishonest, IMO.

Posted by King
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 3:42 pm to
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intellectually dishonest


Pussy....This is football discussion...

HIT SOMEBODY!!!
Posted by woopiginaustin
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 3:42 pm to
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xiv


In other words, I don't think you are an idiot. You seem the opposite.

But I believe your opinion of the SWC of old is off.
Posted by King
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 3:44 pm to
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I don't think you are an idiot


You are correct, he is an arse
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 3:46 pm to
quote:

I'll give you that most of the time the SEC and Big 10 were producing a better product.

But to trash the SWC the way you do is intellectually dishonest, IMO.
I sincerely, honestly disagree with you, and furthermore, I'm disappointed that there are ANY Arky fans who are SWC apologists. I know a lot of Hogs up here, and all it takes is two beers to get one of them talking about some of the screwjobs at the hands of Texas-based officials and damn near crying about it, and I can't disagree with anything they say (other than their claims that Arkansas wasn't overrated).

Arkansas should have tried harder and sooner to get into the Big 8. Arkansas wasn't that great, but they were good enough to make the Big 8 better, and better than the SWC. The SWC would have sucked assballs if they were purely an 8-team Texas league.

Oh wait...it did...when Arkansas did finally leave it.

frick the SWC.
Posted by woopiginaustin
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 3:46 pm to
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arse


Yes, she is an arse but she can use this as a learning experience.
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 3:48 pm to
NOT ONLY THAT, but if Arkansas had joined the Big 8, making the Big 9, it would have been VERY interesting to see the college football landscape today. Surely the Big 9 would have tried to expand to 12. Texas? A&M? Utah/BYU?
Posted by BamaInHsv
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 3:48 pm to
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All they do is remember the good ole days
Got news for you champ. The good ole days are back, for us.
Posted by loussenile
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 3:52 pm to
One good year and they are back?
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 4:03 pm to
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One good year and they are back?
It happens once ever 5ish years, yes. Bama is "back" for about the 6th time in my life (born in 1980).
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 4:26 pm to
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any a-hole can pick and choose certain dates to include or exclude to make his argument, that's why I like to look at the whole thing


First time I've ever heard any other SEC fan admit this.
Posted by woopiginaustin
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Posted on 9/26/09 at 1:58 pm to
LIKE I SAID:

quote:



LSU is a 10 in my book. But they have a 7 as an HC and every year they become a less daunting opponent and less competitive for a BCSNC.

Why is this? USC is still competing. OSU is still in the mix. Texas is. Florida is.

The answer is that LSU is a Ferrari being driven by a go-kart pro.

I vote that LSU keeps him for years to come



LSU is becoming less and less competitive under Miles. Like it or not, you don't scare folks anymore. You're little more than a #15 -#20 team sitting at #7 based on garbage preseason polls.

You have all the tools to compete for a BCS bowl every year but you are slowly becoming just another tough SEC opponent, not the cream of the crop.
This post was edited on 9/26/09 at 2:01 pm
Posted by bcshog
arkansas
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 9/26/09 at 3:42 pm to
I'm not sure how anyone could deny Arkansas has it's own football tradition.I'm also not sure how anyone can pretend that tradition is among the elite. We DID finish in the AP top 5 6 years in a row, but in that time span we only won 2 bowl games and one contested national championship, so both arguments are moot. We were a very good team in the 60's and 70's but a non factor in the other decades.
Posted by Fatbackhawg
Fayetteville
Member since Sep 2008
3139 posts
Posted on 9/26/09 at 4:07 pm to
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These guys think they are some kind of traditional power in college football. Bama fans may be wacko themselves, but at least their school really is one of the historical elite.


If you think that then you are are the wacko....
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