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re: Most delusional fanbase isn't Bama.....it's Arkansas

Posted on 9/15/09 at 2:19 pm to
Posted by Night Man
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 2:19 pm to
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Dude, you do realize that LSU wasn't shite in the years leading up to Saban, right?

And you do realize that it looks like you are in the middle of the long, slow decline back to where you were before Saban, right?


Statements like that are why this thread was started. LSU is pretty high in the all-time program rankings. It's more likely that those bad years were an aberration than the successful run recently. LSU also has certain natural advantages when it comes to recruiting that only a few schools in the country can match. Arkansas? Not so much
This post was edited on 9/15/09 at 2:20 pm
Posted by King
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 2:19 pm to
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Thoughtfully explain to me how the frick LSU is declining every year under Miles?


You have lost to us the past two years.

Nuff said.
Posted by loussenile
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 2:20 pm to
Since 2007? Umm I could be wrong but even if our records are close, we one up you on the NC count.
Posted by woopiginaustin
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 2:20 pm to
"LSU is elite, while Arkansas isn't" is a strawman argument against a fact laid out that is hard for Tiger fans to swallow.

Hell, it wouldn't matter if it was a Commodore saying it, a Hog, Joe Montana, or Jesus Christ.

LSU isn't what it was a few years ago and beating them seems like less and less of a daunting task each year.

Now you tell me why this is? LSU is still a 10 as a program, mind you.


Posted by King
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 2:20 pm to
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LSU also has certain natural advantages when it comes to recruiting that only a few schools in the country can match.


Again

Ask the fighting Irish how that works out
Posted by DC RaiseHerBack
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 2:20 pm to
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that's a pretty big gap dude


Not a dude and not really when you consider the in-state talent, eliteness, huge recruiting gaps.

Oh, and the gap is getting smaller every year...


Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 2:20 pm to
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Second of all, if you look at your stats, Arkansas was the arguably better program (cumulatively) from the 60's through the 90's, and at the very least equal. It's been the last decade and your two national championships, etc., that have vaulted you so far ahead. You can thank Saban for that.


Other than the 60's, 70's and 80's, you've been a very mediocre program.

Other than the 90's, we've been elite or close to it.

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Oh, and you aren't being "generous" by counting our national title. We were easily the rightful winners that year. If we counted like Bama, we'd have 3 or 4.




If we counted like Bama we'd have 7 or 8.

I said that b/c under that system, the NC was crowned before the bowls. How would things have been different if Bear Bryant knew he had to win the bowl game to win the NC?
This post was edited on 9/15/09 at 2:21 pm
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 2:20 pm to
losing to ole miss and arkansas in the same year.

Letting Washington Move the ball on lsus defense.
Posted by loussenile
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
758 posts
Posted on 9/15/09 at 2:21 pm to
So losing to someone puts us on the decline. As of now we are 2-0...doesnt sound like a decline to me
Posted by Night Man
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 2:21 pm to
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Again

Ask the fighting Irish how that works out




That doesn't even make sense. ND has no geographical recruiting advantage. They recruit nationally off of name recognition, and that hasn't really worked out well for them recently despite bringing in a few highly rated classes.
Posted by woopiginaustin
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

"LSU is elite, while Arkansas isn't" is a strawman argument against a fact laid out that is hard for Tiger fans to swallow.

Hell, it wouldn't matter if it was a Commodore saying it, a Hog, Joe Montana, or Jesus Christ.

LSU isn't what it was a few years ago and beating them seems like less and less of a daunting task each year.

Now you tell me why this is? LSU is still a 10 as a program, mind you.


crickets
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 2:22 pm to
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Not a dude and not really when you consider the in-state talent, eliteness, huge recruiting gaps.


You were also aided by the weak arse SWC for years.

and how exactly is the gap getting smaller?
Posted by SwineFlu
Member since Jul 2009
1059 posts
Posted on 9/15/09 at 2:23 pm to
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Other than the 60's, 70's and 80's, you've been a very mediocre program.

Other than the 90's, we've been elite or close to it.


What you just said = you have had a better 2000's than Arkansas.

Congratulations. I'd never dispute that.

But it's absolutely laughable to act like LSU is on another universe than Arkansas, when Arkansas is arguably the better program until the last 9 years.

Again, thank Saban for that.
Posted by DC RaiseHerBack
Member since Nov 2006
55445 posts
Posted on 9/15/09 at 2:24 pm to
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You were also aided by the weak arse SWC for years.


That's a dumb argument, imo.


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and how exactly is the gap getting smaller?


I'm just talking shite but I mainly mean the series win-loss record. It will not surprise me that it changes quite a bit in our favor, though in a few years.
Posted by loussenile
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
758 posts
Posted on 9/15/09 at 2:24 pm to
So we have one mediocre year and all of the sudden we should panic because its a decline?
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 2:24 pm to
i'm still waiting on the link that makes us delusional.
Posted by SwineFlu
Member since Jul 2009
1059 posts
Posted on 9/15/09 at 2:24 pm to
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You were also aided by the weak arse SWC for years.


You know how fricking stupid you look when you say this?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 2:25 pm to
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What you just said = you have had a better 2000's than Arkansas


You do realize that both LSU and Arkansas played football for about 60 years prior to the 1960's, right?

you've had 3 good decades. we've had 9.

quote:


when Arkansas is arguably the better program until the last 9 years.


No, it isn't
This post was edited on 9/15/09 at 2:28 pm
Posted by loussenile
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
758 posts
Posted on 9/15/09 at 2:25 pm to
Did you not see those stats. You were not a better program until 2000's.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 9/15/09 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

So we have one mediocre year and all of the sudden we should panic because its a decline?

Read the rant lately?
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