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Posted on 7/1/14 at 11:58 pm to
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 11:58 pm to
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Second -- LOL @ your joke numbers. Are you all a bunch of idiots that expect people to just believe what you say? Your now the third person in this thread to throw out a ridiculous number that is nowhere close to actual.

You spent $12.5mil on the renovation.



You are aware that the dollar amount of the renovation isn't the same as how much the entire facility costed, right?


I guess not...
Posted by FrozenPancakes
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:00 am to
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Directly before I backed it up with pictures



OM could play in the FedEx Forum and you would still try to tell us the Hump is a nicer facility.


We can stop before it turns to baseball and you get your feelings hurt.
This post was edited on 7/2/14 at 12:02 am
Posted by Whereisomaha
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:01 am to
Damn that's my bad. I guess I'm getting 50 mil from the SEZ and IPF since both were done at the same time. But seriously what are we renovating? 18.2 million. So even without inflation an increased building costs ours cost more than yours.

And I don't know what to tell you but I promise I toured both facilities. Toured yours our winter break with my grandparents and was escorted by an old coach of yours and toured our after our spring game.
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Posted by FrozenPancakes
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:01 am to
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You are aware that the dollar amount of the renovation isn't the same as how much the entire facility costed, right?

He'll need to see that in a spreadsheet
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:02 am to
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Uh -- Fletcher Cox signed after Mullen got here. He decommitted initially when Croom was fired.



He committed when Croom was there. You can ignore that all you want...doesn't change that fact. Ignore it and spin as much as you want...but he was coming to MSU. I don't remember exactly when Croom got fired...but for your sake I'll put December. That means was committed for at least 7 months and only decommitted for 2.


Or are you saying that he was committed to Croom and not MSU....which is you also saying that Croom recruited at a higher level than what MSU typically recruits at. You kind of backed yourself into a wall with that one...
Posted by engie
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:03 am to
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You are aware that the dollar amount of the renovation isn't the same as how much the entire facility costed, right?


I guess not...


Are you still stupid enough to try to get anyone believe that you'd spent almost $50mil on your IPF previously?

You do realize that the term "renovation" precludes you from being able to add the two numbers together, don't you? Since a significant portion of the initial price tag is now stuff that you are replacing, resulting in a total value much less than the total money spent.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:05 am to
Our basketball practice facility is first class and the Hump, while old, is still aesthetically nice, not so much by amenities but by design.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:06 am to
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You do realize that the term "renovation" precludes you from being able to add the two numbers together, don't you? Since a significant portion of the initial price tag is now stuff that you are replacing, resulting in a total value much less than the total money spent.



I'm completely aware. I'm just trying to dumb myself down to your level and try to figure out why you pulled up a renovation number when we're discussing how much it costed. Still not sure how you got so confused by this...
Posted by Whereisomaha
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:06 am to
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Are you still stupid enough to try to get anyone believe that you'd spent almost $50mil on your IPF previously?

He didn't say that. I did. And corrected myself. We still spent more than y'all on our nicer facility.
Posted by engie
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:07 am to
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OM could play in the FedEx Forum and you would still try to tell us the Hump is a nicer facility.


No -- the Hump sucks. And I don't really know how we "fix" it without starting over. It's the next project after Dudy Noble -- and is coming quickly though. MSU has seen a huge influx of demand for premium seating -- and the Hump has none.

quote:

We can stop before it turns to baseball and you get your feelings hurt.

The Dude is outdated. Only took you 22 years to catch up in that regard -- and as far as practice and everyday facilities go, you still aren't even in the ballpark to compare to us in baseball. You have a SLIGHTLY nicer stadium. Hope you enjoyed it for a few years. Starting at the end of next season -- it's back to being our bitch for the next 25 years.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:07 am to
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He didn't say that. I did. And corrected myself. We still spent more than y'all on our nicer facility.




facts tend to be ignored by engie. Can't grind facts...not enough bulldog in them.
Posted by Whereisomaha
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:07 am to
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You do realize that the term "renovation" precludes you from being able to add the two numbers together, don't you? Since a significant portion of the initial price tag is now stuff that you are replacing, resulting in a total value much less than the total money spent.

We expanded it the IPF. We didn't dress anything up other than our locker room. New team meeting room, added on weight room, new lobby, new restaurant... Those were added in square footage not turned into or dressed up.
Posted by FrozenPancakes
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:08 am to
From what I've seen, both basketball facilities are nice.
Posted by engie
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:08 am to
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Damn that's my bad. I guess I'm getting 50 mil from the SEZ and IPF since both were done at the same time. But seriously what are we renovating? 18.2 million. So even without inflation an increased building costs ours cost more than yours.

You can't play that -- without adding the cost of the Palmeiro Center to ours, thus still making ours more expensive.

Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:08 am to
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You have a SLIGHTLY nicer stadium



Posted by Whereisomaha
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:08 am to
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Our basketball practice facility is first class and the Hump, while old, is still aesthetically nice, not so much by amenities but by design.

No one is disagreeing
Posted by FrozenPancakes
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:09 am to
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You have a SLIGHTLY nicer stadium



Keep grindin'
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:09 am to
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We expanded it the IPF. We didn't dress anything up other than our locker room. New team meeting room, added on weight room, new lobby, new restaurant... Those were added in square footage not turned into or dressed up.



This...we literally built onto the IPF. Therefore the cost of renovation DOES, in fact, raise the value of the IPF.



To put it in engie terms....we built a deck on our double-wide.
Posted by Whereisomaha
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:09 am to
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. It's the next project after Dudy Noble -- and is coming quickly though

5-7 years is quick?
Posted by FrozenPancakes
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:11 am to
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5-7 years is quick?

It is if engie needs to build an argument around it
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