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Posted on 5/20/10 at 8:58 am to
Posted by Choctaw Hog
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Posted on 5/20/10 at 8:58 am to
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Also, when will your obsession with HDN end? Serious question Choctaw. I mean, it can't go on forever can it?


I believe you were the one over he posting shite about the Hogs falling on their face this year so what is your obsession with the Hogs? Seriously? If the Hogs do stumble this year, which isn't going to happen, do you somehow think that would take the sting out of the Rebel's failures last year? That's probably what you are hoping and praying for.
This post was edited on 5/20/10 at 10:17 am
Posted by RebelNutt48
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:04 am to
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I don't know, maybe because the Head Coach is responsible for the team's record. Just a wild guess. Maybe it's different at Ole Miss.


Okay...I hate this argument...but I will say one thing. This statement falls back on what another Arkansas poster was saying. Yes...it is the HC's responsibility for the team's record. So earlier, why are some Arkansas fans blaming a former coach for their past two seasons? Shouldn't that be on your HC?
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:07 am to
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Works for AP


So do a lot of morons. His top-25 is ONE BALLOT out of SIXTY FIVE which are calculated into the final poll. His opinion is literally worth 1.5% of the entire poll.

I mean, do you even pay attention to college football? shite almighty, this is stuff you should know already.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:11 am to
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I don't know, maybe because the Head Coach is responsible for the team's record. Just a wild guess. Maybe it's different at Ole Miss.



So you're saying Petrino is at fault for the past two season's at Arkansas?
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:12 am to
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So which of Nutt's recruits at Ole Miss have been drafted over the last three years? Maybe I missed some.


Well, being as how none of his players are eligible for the draft, I'd say none.

It's easy to say "well this hasn't happened" when "this" is something that is IMPOSSIBLE.
Posted by MeowMeow
Little Rock
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:12 am to
True, but we do not live in a vaccuum either. Having the correct talent to run your schemes is very important to most coaching types. Having the talent there is the coaches job, and not really one a new hire can just wish for and have appear.

We have improved all around from one year to the next and from the beginning of the year to the end. That is what I was looking for from those teams, so I am happy with Petrino's work so far. If we take a step back this year, Petrino will be out of excuses as he has had time to bring in guys to fit his scheme.
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:14 am to
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If the players Nutt brought in were better...wouldn't they play?


Off of the top of my head, our starting quarterback, halfback, tight end, right tackle, center, slot receiver, strongside DE, weakside LB, corners (both of 'em), and free safety are Nutt recruits.

Oh, and our kicker and punter. So, 14/24 of our starters are Nutt recruits. That's a majority.

Other Ole Miss posters: is this accurate? I'm fairly certain it is.
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:15 am to
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So earlier, why are some Arkansas fans blaming a former coach for their past two seasons? Shouldn't that be on your HC?


Imagine that, Arkansas fans presenting double standards and wanting to have their cake and eat it too. I never thought I'd see the day.
Posted by sugatowng
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:16 am to
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Okay...I hate this argument...but I will say one thing. This statement falls back on what another Arkansas poster was saying. Yes...it is the HC's responsibility for the team's record. So earlier, why are some Arkansas fans blaming a former coach for their past two seasons? Shouldn't that be on your HC?


trying to compare apples to apples here...year 3 of both coaches...

We're on the way up...you guys likely finish outside the top 4 in the West yet have recruited better than Petrino...I don't understand why this is so hard
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:18 am to
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We're on the way up...you guys likely finish outside the top 4 in the West yet have recruited better than Petrino...I don't understand why this is so hard


You have the best quarterback in the SEC. We've got 2 guys who have never started a game in the SEC, one of whom has never taken a snap in college.

Having the best quarterback in the SEC makes a huge difference. Just ask David Cutcliffe.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:18 am to
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Oh, and our kicker and punter. So, 14/24 of our starters are Nutt recruits. That's a majority.

Other Ole Miss posters: is this accurate? I'm fairly certain it is.


pretty accurate. The problem with this year is a lack of quality upperclassman in certain positions. The problem stems back to Orgeron not recruiting worth a damned to positions that make up half a team. Crappy OL, WR's, DB's and a terrible 2007 class. That's our problem this year. That's why we're having a "down year" this year.
Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:19 am to
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Off of the top of my head, our starting quarterback, halfback, tight end, right tackle, center, slot receiver, strongside DE, weakside LB, corners (both of 'em), and free safety are Nutt recruits.

Oh, and our kicker and punter. So, 14/24 of our starters are Nutt recruits. That's a majority.

Other Ole Miss posters: is this accurate? I'm fairly certain it is.


and your going to have a down year compared to the previous two with the majority of Nutt recruits...not rocket science guys
Posted by RebelNutt48
Valdosta, GA
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:19 am to
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trying to compare apples to apples here...year 3 of both coaches...

We're on the way up...you guys likely finish outside the top 4 in the West yet have recruited better than Petrino...I don't understand why this is so hard


Okay...that's your opinion and that's cool. But that has nothing to do with what I posted.
Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:20 am to
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You have the best quarterback in the SEC. We've got 2 guys who have never started a game in the SEC, one of whom has never taken a snap in college.

Having the best quarterback in the SEC makes a huge difference. Just ask David Cutcliffe


Don't we hear all the time its all about Defense in the SEC? Your QB threw 20 pics last year and neither one of those guys could earn starter time?
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:21 am to
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You have the best quarterback in the SEC. We've got 2 guys who have never started a game in the SEC, one of whom has never taken a snap in college.

Having the best quarterback in the SEC makes a huge difference. Just ask David Cutcliffe.



This.

No one here is doubting Mallett's talent. We're talking about Arkansas as a whole. And Mallett will likely fold under heavy pressure like most QB's do.
Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:21 am to
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Okay...that's your opinion and that's cool. But that has nothing to do with what I posted.



then you have tunnel vision
Posted by RebelNutt48
Valdosta, GA
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:23 am to
no. my argument was based on two different responses by Hog posters about the LAST two years. Nothing about the future of the program.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:23 am to
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and your going to have a down year compared to the previous two with the majority of Nutt recruits...not rocket science guys



many are first year players and most are 2nd year players......not rocket science guys
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:24 am to
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and your going to have a down year compared to the previous two with the majority of Nutt recruits...not rocket science guys


A "majority of Nutt recruits" translates as "primarily freshmen and sophomores". Find a team in the country starting primarily freshmen and sophomores that isn't in a "down" or "rebuilding" mode and I'll buy you a scoop of ice cream, any flavor you'd like.

Once again, Ryan Mallett fell in your lap (Mitch Mustain and Lloyd Carr have more to do with it than Bobby Petrino and you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise) and, due to his talent and Petrino's playbook, your offense is going to be quite competitive.... The problem is, it still won't be tough to hang 30 on the Hogs this year.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:24 am to
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Don't we hear all the time its all about Defense in the SEC? Your QB threw 20 pics last year and neither one of those guys could earn starter time?



You mean one RS Fr QB and another QB who had his RS season last year?

Nope
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