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Posted on 3/2/12 at 1:06 am to
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 3/2/12 at 1:06 am to
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hat's pretty scary hearing some can not have basements. I grew up in Missouri and they were a way of life during the spring.


Houston is so low I don't think anywhere in the area has them. They would flood out every time a major rain storm came. During tornado type storms people go to center rooms in the house that don't have windows, I'm assuming this isn't the case in Missouri and y'all go to the basement? I honestly don't know.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62990 posts
Posted on 3/2/12 at 1:08 am to
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I didn't realize Houston was called the Bayou City until I was there for a month after Katrina. I guess I've been living under a rock.


Yeah there's a fair amount in the area. Katrina was an eye opener for the city since it's also extremely vulnerable. We've been pretty lucky all things considered.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/2/12 at 1:09 am to
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There are houses in New Orleans that the second floor is the living quarters and the actual first floor is the garage and, what we call, basement.


This is kind of how my house is. From the street it looks one story, but as you drive down the drive way it opens to the garage area which is on the basement level. It's a full basement, extending the full length and width of the house.

Garage, living room type area, pool room, and storage makes up the basement. Furnished with a bathroom and shower.

Upstairs is furnished with two bathrooms 3 bedrooms, etc.


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During the flood after Katrina, the water table was so high that caskets in cemeteries were popping out of the ground. Serious.



Yeah, I've heard this... and I'm sure that was very hard to deal with. I couldn't imagine that happening in my area.

However, even I, who didn't live in the area knew that New Orleans was doomed due to it's levy's and flood control setup if a major Hurricane came. Unfortunately, know one wants to fix shite until it is obviously broken on a national level.
This post was edited on 3/2/12 at 1:13 am
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/2/12 at 1:12 am to
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I'm assuming this isn't the case in Missouri and y'all go to the basement? I honestly don't know.


Yes. Most homes, at least in the St Louis metro, have basements. I'm pretty sure that basements or storm sellers are very common in the Midwest.

I'm sorry to hear that the water table prevents this in the southeast and Gulf coast.

This post was edited on 3/2/12 at 1:13 am
Posted by Daigeaux
Mountains of East Tennessee
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 3/2/12 at 1:13 am to
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Katrina was an eye opener for the city since it's also extremely vulnerable.


I was back home in New Orleans when Hurricane Rita was about to hit Houston. I watched on tv that clusterfrick of people trying to evacuate...and I thought the evacuation out of New Orleans was bad...
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/2/12 at 1:14 am to
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disagree, depends on where in Mississippi


South Mississippi-impossible

Central Mississippi-only slightly impossible

North Mississippi-only less slightly impossible

Now, which area would you like to debate...
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62990 posts
Posted on 3/2/12 at 1:16 am to
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I was back home in New Orleans when Hurricane Rita was about to hit Houston. I watched on tv that clusterfrick of people trying to evacuate...and I thought the evacuation out of New Orleans was bad


They fixed some of the problems adding contraflow and things like that. It was a little better during Hurricane Ike but that kind of highlights how bad the traffic situation in Houston is in general. If you were here after Katrina I'm sure you understand. Some of the pictures of the highways from the Rita evac are just absurd
Posted by Daigeaux
Mountains of East Tennessee
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 3/2/12 at 1:16 am to
Had the Army Corp of Engineers inspected the levies like they were supposed to, then N.O. wouldn't have flooded. Now they can completely shut off the canals that lead into Lake Pontchartrain when the tidal surge into the lake hits. Plus there are huge pumping stations now that lead from the canals to the lake...
This post was edited on 3/2/12 at 1:20 am
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36776 posts
Posted on 3/2/12 at 1:17 am to
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Now, which area would you like to debate...


Corinth, on my latitude, and I've been in a basement there.
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/2/12 at 1:22 am to
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Corinth, on my latitude, and I've been in a basement there.


Splitting hairs, Corinth shares no geological conditions that affect the rest of Mississippi. Corinth is way more TN or northwest Alabama than it is MS. Most of MS in on shifting Yazoo clay which makes basements impossible from the leaking and instablilty standpoint.
This post was edited on 3/2/12 at 1:24 am
Posted by chilld28
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/2/12 at 1:22 am to
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North Mississippi-only less slightly impossible
If you cant dig a basement into side of one of those hills in Iuka, MS, you have problems.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36776 posts
Posted on 3/2/12 at 1:25 am to
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Splitting hairs, Corinth shares no geological conditions that affect the rest of Mississippi. Corinth is way more TN or northwest Alabama than it is MS.


Horse shite...... you said

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You cannot have a basement in Mississippi either. It would be full of water in less than 3 days.


I said...

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disagree, depends on where in Mississippi



You can't take back shite cause you were wrong and there are parts of Mississippi where you can have a basement. Just admit you were wrong and move on.




Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/2/12 at 1:28 am to
And for what it's worth, my basement leaks a little too when it rains like hell (hard rain, no letting up at all) for 6 plus hours. But it's just a little (1/8 of an inch) and only happens ~ once a year.
This post was edited on 3/2/12 at 1:30 am
Posted by Daigeaux
Mountains of East Tennessee
Member since Jul 2005
6065 posts
Posted on 3/2/12 at 1:30 am to
is your basement underground? does it have windows?
This post was edited on 3/2/12 at 1:31 am
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
22104 posts
Posted on 3/2/12 at 1:32 am to
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You can't take back shite cause you were wrong and there are parts of Mississippi where you can have a basement. Just admit you were wrong and move on.


Well dipshit, there is no law against them in MS but common sense tells you you cannot have one that doesn't leak in MS. Now you picked a border town, yes Corinth is very close to two different states which do not share a whole lot of geological conditions, to say you have seen one. If you did see one it probably leaked like a son of a bitch and causes the house to shift quite frequently. Now, as I said origionally, if you were going to be stupid enough to build one in MS then North MS would be only less problematic than the rest of the state.
This post was edited on 3/2/12 at 1:35 am
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36776 posts
Posted on 3/2/12 at 1:34 am to
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is your basement underground? does it have windows?



it's underground, it has windows at about a 6 1/2 foot level in two places. the garage part opens to a surface driveway area that is dug out.
Posted by Daigeaux
Mountains of East Tennessee
Member since Jul 2005
6065 posts
Posted on 3/2/12 at 1:35 am to
ok...i know what you're sayin...
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36776 posts
Posted on 3/2/12 at 1:37 am to
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Well dipshit, there is no law against them in MS but common sense tells you you cannot have one that doesn't leak in MS. Now you picked a border town, yes Corinth is very close to two different states which do not share a whole lot of geological conditions, to say you have seen one. If you did see one it probably leaked like a son of a bitch and causes the house to shift quite frequently.





Sorry, but I've been to the corinth (northeastern) area of Mississippi quite a bit. Area isn't much different than that of north alabama, and I know a shite ton of folks with basements over here.
This post was edited on 3/2/12 at 1:38 am
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36776 posts
Posted on 3/2/12 at 1:51 am to
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Had the Army Corp of Engineers inspected the levies like they were supposed to, then N.O. wouldn't have flooded. Now they can completely shut off the canals that lead into Lake Pontchartrain when the tidal surge into the lake hits. Plus there are huge pumping stations now that lead from the canals to the lake...


Well hopefully that has fixed the situation there. I think ALOT of people knew it was a disaster waiting to happen. Unfortunately, sometimes things don't get fixed until disaster strikes and people succumb to the fact money needs to be spent to fix things.
Posted by Daigeaux
Mountains of East Tennessee
Member since Jul 2005
6065 posts
Posted on 3/2/12 at 2:00 am to
Let's put it this way....the city is better equipped to handle the tidal surge. With that said, there are still alot of things that could go wrong. When St Bernard flooded, it was because of a 50 ft tidal surge that was traveling up the MRGO @ 75mph that busted the levees down there. Who knows what could happen if that same scenario plays out.
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