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Posted on 11/17/09 at 4:15 pm to Brendoni
quote:Never said he is great, but he is not average at best like you said. He is an above average QB that is getting better and getting his feet under him again. JPW was average at best, but McElroy actually has the ability to win games and does not have to be a game manager. Our running game is so good, but if we need to throw we definitely can...see VT, first half LSU.
nope, i've said bama has a better run game, and defense than LSU. you on the otherhand can't admit that mcElroy isn't a great Qb. you have to put some kind of spin on it everytime it's mentioned. Ingram, that guy is a GREAT running back and i will admit that. but you can't/won't be honest in regards to mcelroy being an average qb.
Only a fool would say Ingram isn't great...there is no debate about that. There is a debate about McElroy only being average though. If you say he is average, how can you not say JJ is average when GMac has equal stats?
Posted on 11/17/09 at 4:17 pm to PlayersCoach
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If you say he is average, how can you not say JJ is average when GMac has equal stats?
becuase mcelroy has a strong running game to support him. if charles scott had the year he did last year or was playing at the level ingram is, jj would have far better stats than mcelroy. lsu's offense is one dimensional wouldn’t you agree? if florida forces mcelroy to throw, you will see how average he is.
Posted on 11/17/09 at 4:18 pm to PlayersCoach
Delusion at its best!
Posted on 11/17/09 at 4:21 pm to Brendoni
quote:JPW had a good running game last year but his stats blew. Florida won't make him throw because we will run on Florida. We ran on them last year, and teams have been able to run on them this year. The problem is they get up on people and you have to throw, and defending the pass is their forte. Florida makes everyone look average (JJ included, who looked below average).
becuase mcelroy has a strong running game to support him. if charles scott had the year he did last year or was playing at the level ingram is, jj would have far better stats than mcelroy. lsu's offense is one dimensional wouldn’t you agree? if florida forces mcelroy to throw, you will see how average he is.
Posted on 11/17/09 at 4:21 pm to Geauxtigers468
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Delusion at its best!
he's gonna see when bama play's florida. i think they win becuase of ingram, but mcelroy is not going to do anything in that game.
Posted on 11/17/09 at 4:23 pm to Brendoni
quote:What QB has done anything on them?
but mcelroy is not going to do anything in that game.
Posted on 11/17/09 at 4:23 pm to Choctaw
Ingram.... the reason why elroy has any success...
Posted on 11/17/09 at 4:24 pm to PlayersCoach
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JPW had a good running game last year but his stats blew. Florida won't make him throw because we will run on Florida. We ran on them last year, and teams have been able to run on them this year. The problem is they get up on people and you have to throw, and defending the pass is their forte. Florida makes everyone look average (JJ included, who looked below average).
all of this and you didn't answer my question. you don't think jj's "stats" are effected by LSU inability to run the ball? if ingram went down, would mcelroy be able to win a game for bama against a team like florida, auburn, south carolina ect? let's say ingram is hurt against florida, are you confident mcelroy can lead them to victory?
Posted on 11/17/09 at 4:24 pm to PlayersCoach
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What QB has done anything on them?
Crompton??????
Posted on 11/17/09 at 4:28 pm to PlayersCoach
Teams have been able to run on Florida??? This is news to me. They are giving up 2.9 YPC and only 3 rushing TD's. They have not given up more than 3.7 YPC to any team this year. Nobody has been able to run on them. At least check your stats before you regurgitate false facts.
Posted on 11/17/09 at 4:29 pm to Brendoni
quote:A running game definitely helps, but it is not the end all be all. As I said...JPW had a very powerful running game last year, but his stats sucked. Guys like Ryan Mallett put up good numbers without a running game..in fact, Arkansas and LSU have similar running games.
all of this and you didn't answer my question. you don't think jj's "stats" are effected by LSU inability to run the ball? if ingram went down, would mcelroy be able to win a game for bama against a team like florida, auburn, south carolina ect? let's say ingram is hurt against florida, are you confident mcelroy can lead them to victory?
If Ingram goes down, yes I have full confidence we can beat Florida. People forget Trent Richardson will be better than Ingram. He is not as good now, but he is very powerful and explosive. I think we do enough on offense to beat Florida without Ingram. Will it be tougher? Absolutely...but yes, we can still beat Florida. I think that because their offense is not near as explosive as last year, and they will consistently have to drive on us to beat us...and then score on us in the redzone which is tough for them.
Is he great? No. Is he average at best? No...he is somewhere in the middle. On a scale of 1-10 I give him a 7.
Posted on 11/17/09 at 4:30 pm to Brendoni
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9/4 SAN JOSE STATE
9/11 PENN STATE
9/18 at Duke
9/25 at Arkansas
10/2 FLORIDA
10/9 at South Carolina
10/16 OLE MISS
10/23 at Tennessee
10/30 open
11/6 at LSU
CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!!
Posted on 11/17/09 at 4:33 pm to jnugz187
quote:Almost every SEC team has gotten at or around 100 yards on them. They are not invincible against the run. They are giving up like 95 yards on the ground a game..which is good, but when you face a power running team like us that does not bode well for them. We will out physical them again, the question is can we get off the field in the 4th quarter on defense and not have them control the entire 4th quarter TOP.
Teams have been able to run on Florida??? This is news to me. They are giving up 2.9 YPC and only 3 rushing TD's. They have not given up more than 3.7 YPC to any team this year. Nobody has been able to run on them. At least check your stats before you regurgitate false facts.
Posted on 11/17/09 at 4:33 pm to PlayersCoach
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Guys like Ryan Mallett put up good numbers without a running game..in fact, Arkansas and LSU have similar running games.
mcelroy isn't even on the same page as mallett. hell i'm not a homer, jj isn't either.
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Is he great? No. Is he average at best? No...he is somewhere in the middle. On a scale of 1-10 I give him a 7.
i'd give him a 5 maybe 6. i would give jefferson a 7 maybe 8. i'm leaning twds an 8 but with LSU's awesome running game, being that it helps him out so much it's hard to say for sure.
Posted on 11/17/09 at 4:33 pm to TulaneTigerFan
quote:So how do you explain 6 teams getting a bye week before Bama next year?
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9/4 SAN JOSE STATE
9/11 PENN STATE
9/18 at Duke
9/25 at Arkansas
10/2 FLORIDA
10/9 at South Carolina
10/16 OLE MISS
10/23 at Tennessee
10/30 open
11/6 at LSU
CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!!
Posted on 11/17/09 at 4:35 pm to Brendoni
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i'd give him a 5 maybe 6. i would give jefferson a 7 maybe 8. i'm leaning twds an 8 but with LSU's awesome running game, being that it helps him out so much it's hard to say for sure.
You cannot reason with ignorance. Your claim for McElroy being average lies solely on the fact that he has a great running game. Your reason for JJ being clearly above average and almost "great" by giving him an 8, is that "well IF he had a running game I'm sure he would be fantastic"...
Posted on 11/17/09 at 4:35 pm to Brendoni
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i'd give him a 5 maybe 6. i would give jefferson a 7 maybe 8. i'm leaning twds an 8 but with LSU's awesome running game, being that it helps him out so much it's hard to say for sure.
You cannot reason with ignorance. Your claim for McElroy being average lies solely on the fact that he has a great running game. Your reason for JJ being clearly above average and almost "great" by giving him an 8, is that "well IF he had a running game I'm sure he would be fantastic"...
Posted on 11/17/09 at 4:42 pm to PlayersCoach
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You cannot reason with ignorance. Your claim for McElroy being average lies solely on the fact that he has a great running game. Your reason for JJ being clearly above average and almost "great" by giving him an 8, is that "well IF he had a running game I'm sure he would be fantastic"...
i have to question whether or not you know very much about football man. mcelroy has better stats than jj right? right, but he hasn't played a defense like Florida's, bama's not one dimensional on offense, and he's played 1/12 games more than jj. do you really think if bama didn't have a run game his numbers would be better than what they are now? come on man, that flat out ridiculous. i think it's hilarous that you think mcelroy's a better qb than jj, yet you have nothing to back it up. what makes him a better qb than jefferson?
Posted on 11/17/09 at 4:47 pm to PlayersCoach
Looking at 100 yard ruishing games is not an accurate indicator of a teams rushing defense. This is why I use YPC because that is the more accurate statistic. If I were to say Team A rushed for 125 yards on Team B then you might say they had a great run game. But if I told you that they got those 125 yards on 50 carries then you would see that the 125 yards was not really that impressive.
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