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re: LSU Has 14 of 22 Starters Returning and 34 of 44 on the 2-Deep?
Posted on 1/12/13 at 7:07 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
Posted on 1/12/13 at 7:07 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
By the simple fact against LSU manziel's TDs came 50+ minutes apart.
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Posted on 1/12/13 at 7:08 pm to AlaTiger
No, we're totally going 0-12 next year.
Posted on 1/12/13 at 7:09 pm to Jon Ham
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osing Logan, Mingo, Montgomery, Reid, and Simon off the D is brutal.
Same thing was said about losing Claiborne and Brockers
We'll be fine. Worry more about how your team is going to win more than 5 games this year
Posted on 1/12/13 at 9:26 pm to BhamDore
LSU '12 had 14 JR/SR starters
Six were multi year starters. Two on offense and the others on defense. Seven if you count Mingo, he started only five games in '10. Not even half the season. The only three year starters lost were on offense.
Fast forward to '13
LSU has 14 JR/SR projected starters. Sound familar?
Seven on offense and seven on defense.
Of those seven upperclassmen projected on offense four are returning starters.
Offense also returns three sophs to be that started as freshmen in '12. Three upperclass WRs that each have multiple starts in the last two years. An O-lineman that started back half of '10, all of '11 and first 5-6 six games in '12 will be returning from injury. Starting season opener at RB in '12 also returning from injury. Injured about four games in last year.
Of the seven project JR/SR starters on defense only two were starters last year. Three of the new starters do have starting experience. Two will be starting for the first time.
Besides the upperclass starters defense returns one CB that was a starter as a tr fr last year.
Also return three LBs that shared the starts at OLB last year and one CB with starting experience.
LSU returns 14 players on offense with starting experience.
LSU returns 10 players on defense with starting experience.
LSU returns punter, kicker, long snapper and return man all with game experience.
If you think that's an inexperienced team show me what you got.
Six were multi year starters. Two on offense and the others on defense. Seven if you count Mingo, he started only five games in '10. Not even half the season. The only three year starters lost were on offense.
Fast forward to '13
LSU has 14 JR/SR projected starters. Sound familar?
Seven on offense and seven on defense.
Of those seven upperclassmen projected on offense four are returning starters.
Offense also returns three sophs to be that started as freshmen in '12. Three upperclass WRs that each have multiple starts in the last two years. An O-lineman that started back half of '10, all of '11 and first 5-6 six games in '12 will be returning from injury. Starting season opener at RB in '12 also returning from injury. Injured about four games in last year.
Of the seven project JR/SR starters on defense only two were starters last year. Three of the new starters do have starting experience. Two will be starting for the first time.
Besides the upperclass starters defense returns one CB that was a starter as a tr fr last year.
Also return three LBs that shared the starts at OLB last year and one CB with starting experience.
LSU returns 14 players on offense with starting experience.
LSU returns 10 players on defense with starting experience.
LSU returns punter, kicker, long snapper and return man all with game experience.
If you think that's an inexperienced team show me what you got.
Posted on 1/12/13 at 9:37 pm to 167back
LSU starters listed in the official box score for the Clemson game listed below.
* - Senior who won't be back. ** - Junior who declared (according to the stickied thread)
POS ## OFFENSE
X 86 Kadron Boone
LT 68 Josh Dworaczyk*
LG 70 La'el Collins
C 64 P.J. Lonergan*
RG 56 Trai Turner
RT 78 Vadal Alexander
TE 88 Chase Clement*
Z 3 Odell Beckham
RB 33 Jeremy Hill
QB 8 Z. Mettenberger
FB 44 J.C. Copeland
K 30 Drew Alleman*
POS ## DEFENSE
CB 28 Jalen Mills
DE 49 Bark. Mingo**
DT 77 Josh Downs*
DT 18 Bennie Logan**
DE 99 Sam Montgomery**
CB 24 Tharold Simon**
FS 1 Eric Reid**
SAM 58 Tahj Jones
MIKE 46 Kevin Minter**
WILL 57 Lamin Barrow
S 6 Craig Loston
P 90 Brad Wing**
Make of it what you will...
* - Senior who won't be back. ** - Junior who declared (according to the stickied thread)
POS ## OFFENSE
X 86 Kadron Boone
LT 68 Josh Dworaczyk*
LG 70 La'el Collins
C 64 P.J. Lonergan*
RG 56 Trai Turner
RT 78 Vadal Alexander
TE 88 Chase Clement*
Z 3 Odell Beckham
RB 33 Jeremy Hill
QB 8 Z. Mettenberger
FB 44 J.C. Copeland
K 30 Drew Alleman*
POS ## DEFENSE
CB 28 Jalen Mills
DE 49 Bark. Mingo**
DT 77 Josh Downs*
DT 18 Bennie Logan**
DE 99 Sam Montgomery**
CB 24 Tharold Simon**
FS 1 Eric Reid**
SAM 58 Tahj Jones
MIKE 46 Kevin Minter**
WILL 57 Lamin Barrow
S 6 Craig Loston
P 90 Brad Wing**
Make of it what you will...
Posted on 1/12/13 at 9:39 pm to cas4t
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Hill and Yeldon are clearly on the same level talent-wise.
Yeldon was the #2 RB coming out of high school, Hill was #21 the year he graduated. Yeldon was the #12 prospect overall in the nation while Hill wasn't in the top 250 in his class. I like Hill but this "clearly" is rather homerish.
Posted on 1/12/13 at 9:39 pm to AlaTiger
RAd to lsu bored, yeah bored
Posted on 1/12/13 at 10:15 pm to AlaTiger
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I think that the oft prophesied and long hoped for demise of LSU on this board and around the country is once again premature.
first, it was LSU/Auburn that decided the SEC...then it was LSU/Florida....now it's LSU/bama.
one common factor
Posted on 1/12/13 at 10:17 pm to americanrealism
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Yeldon was the #2 RB coming out of high school, Hill was #21 the year he graduated. Yeldon was the #12 prospect overall in the nation while Hill wasn't in the top 250 in his class.
their senoir year of high school is irrelevant
Posted on 1/12/13 at 10:20 pm to AlaTiger
The issue is that LSU's offense sucks and barring unforseen changes will continue to suck into the immediate future. They rely on their defense to win games, a defense that is losing up to seven starters.
Combine these facts with Les Miles' long history of poor in-game management and I believe an honest LSU fan would be hardpressed to not have some concern.
A combination of incredible defense and a good number of fortuitous bounces have carried LSU for a while now. Even if the defense is just "good" next year, they could lose 4-5 games.
Combine these facts with Les Miles' long history of poor in-game management and I believe an honest LSU fan would be hardpressed to not have some concern.
A combination of incredible defense and a good number of fortuitous bounces have carried LSU for a while now. Even if the defense is just "good" next year, they could lose 4-5 games.
Posted on 1/12/13 at 10:23 pm to Choctaw
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their senoir year of high school is irrelevant
You're right. This year is most relevant:
Jeremy Hill - 142 Attempts, 755 yards, 5.3 YPC, 12 TD
TJ Yeldon - 175 Attempts, 1,108 yards, 6.3 YPC, 12 TD
This post was edited on 1/12/13 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 1/12/13 at 10:30 pm to RollTide1987
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o obviously our freshmen were better than your freshmen
I do know there are no shortages of "classy" bama fans.
Posted on 1/12/13 at 10:36 pm to AlaTiger
Did nothing?
2 missed field goals in the 4th from the LSU 34 and the freakin 14.
Revisionist?
It was 17-12 with 3:20 remaining in the game.
LSU had a bigger lead than that against Clemson before giving up some "garbage" scores.
2 missed field goals in the 4th from the LSU 34 and the freakin 14.
Revisionist?
It was 17-12 with 3:20 remaining in the game.
LSU had a bigger lead than that against Clemson before giving up some "garbage" scores.
Posted on 1/12/13 at 10:39 pm to RollTide1987
racking up yards against a weaker schedule
Posted on 1/12/13 at 10:42 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Roger Klarvin
beat us...then talk shite
Posted on 1/12/13 at 10:44 pm to AlaTiger
I don't care enough to look, but I'm guessing most of the offense is returning, which isn't really anything to be that excited about.
And no, the rest of the country doesn't really give a shite about LSU. Maybe the SEC.
And no, the rest of the country doesn't really give a shite about LSU. Maybe the SEC.
Posted on 1/12/13 at 10:45 pm to Choctaw
Both Bama and LSU dodged a major bullet in 2013 by not having to play and get plunger raped by James Franklin and the Dores. Franklin would impregnate Saban and Miles in under two full quarters of play.
Posted on 1/12/13 at 10:48 pm to Aloisius Copperpot
You're a 5'4" Asian physics major arent you?
Posted on 1/12/13 at 10:56 pm to Roger Klarvin
Hey when your folks say Gig em are they talking about sticking their thumb inside someones rectum?
Posted on 1/12/13 at 11:36 pm to MrSEC
Yep that's looks like the starting lineup for the peach bowl.
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