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re: LSU Fan Perspective on Bama "Inside the Program"

Posted on 11/4/11 at 12:04 pm to
Posted by 4nmylifetime
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Posted on 11/4/11 at 12:04 pm to
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I'm not seeing it. I could be wrong, but it's hard enough to win one as it is.




Im talking 15-20 years.



Statistically speaking this is very much against the odds. Think of the average length of Coaching tenures these days. I dont see Michgan staying down but for one coach to get more than 1 national title at 1 school is a reach. Not that it cant be done, just saying statistically speaking I would not put alot of money on Hoake winning several titles. He very well could have Michigan in the discussion on more than 1 occasion though.
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 11/4/11 at 12:06 pm to
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Rinaldi just sucks. He's so awkward.


I'm glad you noticed it as well. I HATE how he was rushing Saban. Let the genius talk Man. Let him talk!
Posted by TigerWoody
btwn where I was & where I will be
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/4/11 at 12:06 pm to
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for one coach to get more than 1 national title at 1 school is a reach.


nb4saban
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 11/4/11 at 12:07 pm to
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@ Michigan. How sad is it to be the butt of jokes for a once proud program


I think with Hoke they are in the right direction.
Posted by 4nmylifetime
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 11/4/11 at 12:07 pm to
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for one coach to get more than 1 national title at 1 school is a reach.




nb4saban


Of course I was aware that he had done it. Now name another. It's a reach.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36674 posts
Posted on 11/4/11 at 12:09 pm to
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CalTiger your attitude towards several traditional football powers is laughable. It's very similiar to that of alot of Auburn fans in regards to Alabama during the lean years of probation and poor coaching. Tradition doesnt go away over night. Winning is a culture and it doesnt change in a decade, it takes gernerations. Alot of Auburn fans in Alabama had no concept of this because they had no personel referance or experience to go by. They thought that just because BAMA had a few down years they were done. They underestimated the power of tradition or "winning" culture. Tradition and winning the likes of the Nebraskas, Michigans, ND's and BAMA's is what some people term "Old Money". Your attitude is very much that of "New Money". Take Miami University for example. They didnt know how to handle success or "earn money". They had a good run but when the "loto Money" was spent up by the late nineties and the swag wore off they faded away. Alot of us "old money" fans look at LSU as "new money" like it or not. LSU has been on the national scene only since Nick got there. Before then it was the fifties before LSU was briefly in the discussion. Alot of LSU fans like to think it isnt true that only the nineties were bad for LSU but thats the facts. I'm not saying LSU didnt have competitive football teams or didnt have some great conference championship caliber seasons but if you debate the teams of the decades from the sixties through the nineties LSU is not in the discussion. Your like those Auburn fans, you underestimate the power of "old money" because you have no reference. Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio St and others who are down (we're talking 1 - 3 loss teams being down)will be back because thats what they demand. "New Money" programs will sit back when their run is over and say "it was a good run". Some of us are wondering what LSU will do if the run hits a valley. You gonna be BAMA and demand excellence or you gonna be Miami and talk about the good ole days.






It is funny when someone gets so riled up they forget to use paragraphs in the reply/manisfesto
Posted by TigerWoody
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/4/11 at 12:11 pm to
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I was aware that he had done it.




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more than 1 national title at 1 school
You a fishing muthafricka.
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
38307 posts
Posted on 11/4/11 at 12:11 pm to
where can i watch this tia
Posted by 4nmylifetime
668 Neighbor to the Beast
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 11/4/11 at 12:12 pm to
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It is funny when someone gets so riled up they forget to use paragraphs in the reply/manisfesto


Or has no response other than to become the grammar/puncuation police.
Posted by CalTiger
California
Member since Jan 2004
3997 posts
Posted on 11/4/11 at 12:15 pm to
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CalTiger your attitude towards several traditional football powers is laughable.


What is laughable is that you think that something that happened 20 years back has any relevance today with the school/fans/coaches/players.
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Tradition doesnt go away over night. Winning is a culture and it doesnt change in a decade, it takes gernerations.

Well it sure did for the team you mentioned -Notre Dame: it has been what 20 years and more - sure does count as a generation.
Nebraska is not as bad but not in the upper echelons but they still have time to prove me wrong.
Michigan can claim all they want like Bama but pretty much have only one Title in the last fricking 60 years. LSU has 3!
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Alot of us "old money" fans look at LSU as "new money" like it or not.


And a lot of us LSU fans feel pity that you can't look up the top programs in CFB and see that LSU is in the top 15.
READ THIS LINE - 2 TITLES in the last 8 years.

Again dude enough with the plantation era old money new money crap. If you want to live in the bygone era and keep chanting the Bahr again and again do so - but in the past decade - which is what matters to almost all of us - LSU has a better record, program and titles.

Bama does get a lot of press because of past glory but that is all that is - PAST glory - doesn't do shite on the field.

fricking UTAH took you to school - let me repeat that U-T-A-H schooled you - how is that for the newest money.

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Your like those Auburn fans


With hope, you mean someone who knows the difference between "You are" and "Your" or you simply mean a fan of another team that beat your arse in YOUR STADIUM on route to a national title.
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Some of us are wondering what LSU will do if the run hits a valley.

All of us are wondering what the frick is going to happen to Saban and Bamatards when LSU kicks your arse in this game and the next few years as well.


Posted by 4nmylifetime
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 11/4/11 at 12:15 pm to
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You a fishing muthafricka.


Sorry Woody if it came across as that. All I was really trying to refer to was the fact that it's increadibly hard to win one and in this day and age of short coaching tenures and what have you done for me lately fan bases to be around long enough to get multiple titles is extreamely rare. Saban is the exception not the rule and I say that not in a beating my chest "he's our coach not yours" way.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36674 posts
Posted on 11/4/11 at 12:16 pm to
Would you prefer I repeat the same type of thought in sentence after sentence for a prolonged run-on paragraph?

It doesn't really matter anyway, I have yet to witness a productive discussion between people arguing over the relevance of success in years gone by. "Yes it is" and "No it isn't" plus or minus profanity about covers the talking points
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 11/4/11 at 12:17 pm to
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CalTiger


I have a feeling you'll stick to the rant once this game is over.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281954 posts
Posted on 11/4/11 at 12:22 pm to
Most of us who have been LSU fans for a while have some kind of yin yang respect/hate thing for the Bama program. We remember the Bear Bryant years when Bama would kick LSU's arse every year. These are the good times, LSU is actually as good or better in the past decade.

Bama will always be a big game for LSU no matter how good or bad the Tide is that year.
Posted by TigerWoody
btwn where I was & where I will be
Member since Dec 2007
11387 posts
Posted on 11/4/11 at 12:23 pm to
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Bama will always be a big game for LSU no matter how good or bad the Tide is that year.
Nick gets it. The fans? Not so much.
Posted by CalTiger
California
Member since Jan 2004
3997 posts
Posted on 11/4/11 at 12:24 pm to
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I have a feeling you'll stick to the rant once this game is over.


I have a feeling that Bammers won't show their faces after the loss to know anything about who is posting where.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 11/4/11 at 12:25 pm to
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Nick gets it. The fans? Not so much


Sorry, youre just not a rivalry game for us, and never will be.
Posted by 4nmylifetime
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Member since Jun 2009
2844 posts
Posted on 11/4/11 at 12:27 pm to
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Well it sure did for the team you mentioned -Notre Dame: it has been what 20 years and more - sure does count as a generation


ND is another story. The other schools mentioned have shown an ability to change with the times even though it took some a little while to come around to it. Until ND changes its admission policies to be competitve and updates it's stadium and facilities to compete in the modern world for this day and ages athlete they will have an uphill climb. They however will come around because they demand it form their program. Like it or not alot of people felt that Miami was here to stay. It was an elite school 10 years ago. Now they have to go to Temple to find anyone to coach. LSU has nothing to prove that it's not another Miami (and their good years were a lot better than LSU's). Where as the traditional powerhouses have survived the ups and downs. You have nothing to show that your not the latest Johny come lately. Check back in when you have established a tradition longer than a decade. I could be wrong.

Your/You're/You Are. Big deal. Remember, if you have to resort to correcting grammar on a post your (see what I did there)reaching. I see you still love those cute little emoticons.
Posted by taylormade
Tumbleton
Member since Jan 2011
9863 posts
Posted on 11/4/11 at 12:29 pm to
Helluva post man.. are you sure your an LSU Fan..

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Tiger Ryno


Posted by CalTiger
California
Member since Jan 2004
3997 posts
Posted on 11/4/11 at 12:31 pm to
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Sorry, youre just not a rivalry game for us, and never will be.


First - if two teams play each other in the same division - it pretty much meets the general definition of rival.
Second - the posters were referring to the fact that it would be a big game and if you don't think so you are being naive.
Miles and Saban are recruiting well and there seems to be no let up. Winning the division is first step towards an Sec Title and maybe the national title.
Third - the post also implied, maybe, that it would always be a big game for nick (having coached at both places and the current enmity one-sided or not)
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