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re: Kirby became fastest coach in SEC history to win 100 games
Posted on 10/21/24 at 8:43 pm to djsdawg
Posted on 10/21/24 at 8:43 pm to djsdawg
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SORRY, but 1 game vs a g5 team is NOT a big difference
You gave numbers earlier, I did the math based on those.
I don't know what shitty type of cherry picked SoS metric you are trying to claim now, but you're fricking stupid.
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 9:08 pm to 3down10
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You gave numbers earlier, I did the math based on those.
The math that is one g5 game, which is a small difference.
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know what shitty type of cherry picked SoS metric you are trying to claim now, but you're fricking stupid.
SaGARIN SOS
Posted on 10/21/24 at 9:10 pm to Cocotheape
Saban coached 13 years before he got his Natty
Kirby got his in year 5 and should have been year 2
Kirby got his in year 5 and should have been year 2
Posted on 10/21/24 at 9:12 pm to djsdawg
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The math that is one g5 game, which is a small difference.
No, it's not.
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SaGARIN SOS
Shitty SoS and it's not measured in any way shape or form as "1 G5 game". You're fricking retarded.
This post was edited on 10/21/24 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 10/21/24 at 9:17 pm to 3down10
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No, it's not.
For you to think 1 g5 game is a big difference is an absurd take.
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Shitty SoS and it's not measured in any way shape or form as "1 G5 game". You're fricking retarded.
You are confused as SOS and overall record are 2 different points. Why did you bring up SOS?
Posted on 10/21/24 at 9:20 pm to djsdawg
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For you to think 1 g5 game is a big difference is an absurd take.
Over 118 and 117 games you think a 14.39% difference between them comes down to 1 G5 game?
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You are confused as SOS and overall record are 2 different points. Why did you bring up SOS?
Sagarin is and always has been a shitty metric. The fact the media pumped it and the other computers just goes to highlight what bullshite the term "experts" means.
As for SoS metrics, I just made a general comment because the SoS of the 2 aren't even close. You were the one that cited numbers, and then started making up shite about "1 G5 team".
Posted on 10/21/24 at 9:29 pm to 3down10
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Over 118 and 117 games you think a 14.39% difference between them comes down to 1 G5 game?
No. I am talking about 2005/06 vs 2014/15.
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Sagarin is and always has been a shitty metric.
Ok, why don’t you provide a different SOS?
Posted on 10/21/24 at 9:38 pm to djsdawg
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No. I am talking about 2005/06 vs 2014/15.
What?
What the frick would the SoS before they were coaches matter?
I'm talking about the SOS for them while they got to 100 wins.
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Ok, why don’t you provide a different SOS?
Because it's without question Alabama played a tougher schedule over those 100 wins.
Here, if you want a good SoS metric, even goes back to 2007. But spoiler, Alabama has the #1 SoS or top10 at worse basically every year.
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 9:40 pm to 3down10
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Because he was born on 3rd base. He didn't have to build a program like LSU or rebuild a program like Alabama. Good example of why these kinds of stats are pretty dumb. They have no context.
To be fair, what GOATS did Saban have to deal with his first 118 games?
Posted on 10/21/24 at 10:45 pm to 3down10
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What? What the frick would the SoS before they were coaches matter?
Good question. You brought it up. Not me
This post was edited on 10/21/24 at 10:45 pm
Posted on 10/21/24 at 11:43 pm to dawgfan24348
Fulmer did it in 123 games......And that was when you didn't play 15 games a year.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 2:25 pm to 3down10
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What the frick would the SoS before they were coaches matter?
Were you drunk?
You brought up the time before they were coaches. You brought up SOS.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 2:28 pm to djsdawg
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Were you drunk?
You brought up the time before they were coaches. You brought up SOS.
I don't drink, I gave you too much credit.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 2:29 pm to volinknox
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Fulmer did it in 123 games......And that was when you didn't play 15 games a year.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 2:32 pm to 3down10
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I don't drink, I gave you too much credit.
What led to your confusion?
Posted on 10/22/24 at 2:34 pm to djsdawg
I just want to point out the actual stats.
The ones posted were either only including Bama games for Saban, or only including games as a coach at a SEC school.
Saban won his 100th college game in the 2008 season at Alabama. He had 50 losses to begin that season... so it took him 150 games to reach 100 wins (possibly one or two more, I don't know where the losses came in 2008).
That includes time at Toledo, Michigan State, LSU and Bama. It was his 13th season.
Spurrier won his 100th game in the 1997 season at Florida. He had 27 losses coming into that season. So at least 127 games for him.
It included years at Duke and Florida. It was his 11th season.
Smart won his 100th game in the 2024 season at UGA. It was his 117th game. All at UGA. It was his 9th season.
The ones posted were either only including Bama games for Saban, or only including games as a coach at a SEC school.
Saban won his 100th college game in the 2008 season at Alabama. He had 50 losses to begin that season... so it took him 150 games to reach 100 wins (possibly one or two more, I don't know where the losses came in 2008).
That includes time at Toledo, Michigan State, LSU and Bama. It was his 13th season.
Spurrier won his 100th game in the 1997 season at Florida. He had 27 losses coming into that season. So at least 127 games for him.
It included years at Duke and Florida. It was his 11th season.
Smart won his 100th game in the 2024 season at UGA. It was his 117th game. All at UGA. It was his 9th season.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 2:37 pm to volinknox
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Fulmer did it in 123 games......And that was when you didn't play 15 games a year.
That's not as impressive as you think because you're looking at games. Many teams (especially those like UGA who went more aggressive at scheduling once the NCAA went from 11 to 12 regular season games) ended up playing a smaller percentage of games against cupcakes in a 12 game regular season than an 11-game regular season.
And since the measure is number of GAMES, not number of SEASONS, playing more games a year doesn't impact the results, but playing fewer cupcake opponents does.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:07 pm to volinknox
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Fulmer did it in 123 games......And that was when you didn't play 15 games a year.
Cool. He got to do it without playing in many seccg, no playoffs
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:52 pm to DawginSC
I've been watching since the 60's.....Georgia has historically had one the softest SEC schedules. IMO with the amount of in state talent...They are the most underachieving team in the history of the SEC.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:55 pm to volinknox
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Georgia has historically had one the softest SEC schedules.
It ain’t our fault the vols have sucked arse for so long
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