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re: Kiper says Tyler Wilson would be #3 QB draft prospect this year

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Posted by Latarian
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 4:45 pm to
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Petrino didn't use this as an excuse when in 2009 he signed NINE 4 or 5 star players. Since then he has signed (2010/2011) and currently has commits from NINE 4 or 5 star players. So almost 3 complete classes later and he has merely matched what he did in 2009 in terms of 4/5 star players.


that's odd, as the class rankings have gone down the win total has gone up.

i'll take on the field results, we're never going to be a consistent top 10 recruiting team and yes even if Saban or Miles was here.
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 4:46 pm to
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You guys have 2 4-star commits right now, that's not going to cut it.


We have 6 4* commits... and our biggest OV date is coming up.

ETA: Arkansas commits. (247)
This post was edited on 1/8/12 at 4:48 pm
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 4:48 pm to
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should help our ranking, since that's so important for Petrino's stature as a head coach

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Posted on 1/8/12 at 4:48 pm to
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We have 6 4* commits... and our biggest OV date is coming up.





Which service? Scout? People only use scout to make themselves feel better about their recruiting class. Arkansas will have to recruit better to compete for an SEC title, period.
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 4:50 pm to
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I'll definitely give him Auburn didn't have a NC caliber defense, but Arkansas also won't have an offense with Cam Newton or anyone near his caliber in it.



Cam was a freak, and I doubt the SEC will see another QB who can carry a team like he did.
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 4:50 pm to
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Which service? Scout?


247sports Aka the best one out atm.

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Posted on 1/8/12 at 4:54 pm to
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and I'm sure you agreed with any Hog fan that predicted 11 wins and a top 5 finish in the preseason huh?



I said 9 regular season wins, doesn't look like i was far off
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 4:55 pm to
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I said 9 regular season wins


I said the same
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 4:58 pm to
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Our "best" defensive player (The only 5*) was a huge bust that doesn't know how to cover or tackle.


The majority of your 4/5* defensive recruits have gotten on the field and gotten on the field early. Tevin Mitchel got on the field and started eventually as a true freshman. Byran Jones plays/played a ton and/or starts. Crim and Leon were both starters. D.D. Jones a starter.

Don't see why 1 guy who's been a bust goes against the majority. Plus, it's no secret teams like LSU and Alabama have loaded up on 4/5* talent on defense. You think these defenses would be as dominant if we recruited a majority of 3* there?
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:00 pm to
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247sports Aka the best one out atm.



I am going to give 24/7 a few years to see how their rankings pan out before declaring them anything at the present.
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:00 pm to
Caesars Palace seems to think Arkansas will be in the title hunt next year:

2012 odds:LINK
1. LSU 3.5/1

2. Alabama 6/1

2. USC 6/1

4. Oregon 8/1

5. Arkansas 12/1

5. Georgia 12/1

7. Florida State 18/1

7. Virginia Tech 18/1

9. Oklahoma 20/1

9. Michigan 20/1
This post was edited on 1/8/12 at 5:01 pm
Posted by Latarian
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:01 pm to
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Don't see why 1 guy who's been a bust goes against the majority. Plus, it's no secret teams like LSU and Alabama have loaded up on 4/5* talent on defense. You think these defenses would be as dominant if we recruited a majority of 3* there?



honestly with Chavis and Saban/Smart, yes I do.

same with Petrino on offense, he can take 3* talent and make them into 4/5* players.

I'm of the opinion that player developing and recruiting 'system' players is as important as getting 'stars' guys.
This post was edited on 1/8/12 at 5:02 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:01 pm to
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that's odd, as the class rankings have gone down the win total has gone up.

i'll take on the field results, we're never going to be a consistent top 10 recruiting team and yes even if Saban or Miles was here.


So I take it most everyone on the field this year and last year was recruited in 2010 and 2011? That's the only way your comment holds any weight.
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:02 pm to
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5. Arkansas 12/1


/thread.
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:02 pm to
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Caesars Palace


Hog homers
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:03 pm to
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So I take it most everyone on the field this year and last year was recruited in 2010 and 2011? That's the only way your comment holds any weight


or you could look at it as Petrino's win totals have gone up the longer guys are in his system.
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:05 pm to
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We have 6 4* commits... and our biggest OV date is coming up.

ETA: Arkansas commits. (247)


You have 2 on rivals, which is what the majority of people use and all the numbers I quoted for the past as well to keep it consistent. Let's not play the "let's use what service looks best for me" game. 247 is a nice up and coming site, but they are definitely not there yet as they dont have several team sites up yet. They'll be the best in a couple years IMO, but as I said, they need to grow a bit more before getting there.
Posted by 870Hog
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:06 pm to
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So I take it most everyone on the field this year and last year was recruited in 2010 and 2011? That's the only way your comment holds any weight.


Actually his argument was saying the longer Petrino developes players the better they get...
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:08 pm to
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Caesars Palace seems to think Arkansas will be in the title hunt next year:

2012 odds:LINK
1. LSU 3.5/1

2. Alabama 6/1

2. USC 6/1

4. Oregon 8/1

5. Arkansas 12/1

5. Georgia 12/1

7. Florida State 18/1

7. Virginia Tech 18/1

9. Oklahoma 20/1

9. Michigan 20/1


Yeah, Florida State and Virginia Tech too
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:10 pm to
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Yeah, Florida State and Virginia Tech too


Spoiler: Vegas knows more than you.

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