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re: Javier Arenas Named Semifinalist for Jim Thorpe Award

Posted on 11/3/09 at 8:33 pm to
Posted by BamainCFL
Tuscaloosa
Member since Sep 2009
653 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 8:33 pm to
is he reallly that good?
the only time ive seen people jizz over him is on this board.
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
58972 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 8:37 pm to
Yea Peterson is a top 10 pick next year if he goes pro. He'd be top 15-20 if he could enter this year
Posted by Lieutenant Dan
Member since Jan 2009
8444 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 8:39 pm to
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So Saban is the only one that can turn other coaches recruits into better players /quote]
Never said that
[quote]Wasn't Arenas a 2 star that Shula recruited?
Yes, diamond in the rough
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Thank goodness he was crappy until Saban got him

Never said that
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- another career saved and created by the great one!
lol, sandy vag?



Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
6761 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 8:43 pm to
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Can a sophomore be in on the award?




There is a sophomore on the list. Harris from Miami.
Posted by Lieutenant Dan
Member since Jan 2009
8444 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 8:47 pm to
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I think he's projected 3rd-4th.


You could be right bmy, no way it's 3rd rd. though. Imo, early 2nd, possible late 1st. His return ability will drive his stock higher.
Posted by SEC Ranter
Member since Oct 2009
1348 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 8:54 pm to
Shula had Arenas as a returner and a backup reciever. Gotta give him credit for finding him though because he was not on the radar.Saban was the one that moved him to defense and made him into a Thorpe Award finalist. You can hate Saban all you want but he has a great eye for talent when it comes to defense and is great at putting guys in the right spots to maximize their effectiveness.
This post was edited on 11/3/09 at 9:04 pm
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
17250 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:05 pm to
People don't throw a whole lot at Javy either, they tend to go after Kareem and Marquis.

Till this year he was really underrated as a CB cause of how good he is as PR. Which is understandable I guess since he didn't really become a really good corner till last year.
Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
6761 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:15 pm to
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backup reciever


To be honest there are rarely great 5'9 WR nowadays. I don't see how the switch to corner is so mind blowing. I think it is more of an example of Shula being a dumb arse.

If someone told you a football player was 5'9 what position would you immediatley think of?
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
33676 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:25 pm to
in what fantasy world is arenas a first rounder?
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
17250 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:30 pm to
He's 5th on Kiper's board for corners, add in his return ability and he should be a pretty high draft pick. Being a few inches taller wouldn't hurt obviously.
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:31 pm to
Eric Berry will win this.
Posted by Lieutenant Dan
Member since Jan 2009
8444 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:39 pm to
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in what fantasy world is arenas a first rounder?





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Durability has not been a major issue for Arenas up to this point in his career, but it has to be called into question give his relatively small stature. He stands at just 5'9'' and 195 pounds, which is acceptable for college but could be a problem at the next level. Arenas can make up for his height deficiency with speed and by playing physical football, but he will be overwhelmed at times by bigger NFL wideouts. His talent as one of the most dangerous return men in the nation, however, is undeniable. That alone will give Arenas an outside shot at a first-round selection in the 2010 draft. He will be a great pick for any team that needs an upgrade on special teams and depth in the secondary.


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Posted by EscambiaManToo
Terra-Belle, GA
Member since Dec 2008
1451 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:41 pm to
Height is sometimes overrated, jumping ability is just as important.

Javy reminds me of Antione Winfield of the Vikings, small in stature, but a beast in run support...
Posted by SEC Ranter
Member since Oct 2009
1348 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:42 pm to
He is also apparently one of the strongest players on the team pfp.
This post was edited on 11/4/09 at 8:06 am
Posted by Lieutenant Dan
Member since Jan 2009
8444 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:42 pm to
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Antione Winfield


Good comparison.
Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
6761 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:53 pm to
There is no way I would pick a guy to be just a back up in the secondary and a KR. You could end up with Hester or possibly not even a backup while wasting a first rounder.
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