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re: If we're going to grandfather old rivalries in the name of tradition

Posted on 5/24/13 at 3:15 pm to
Posted by Bernie Moore
Member since May 2010
1859 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 3:15 pm to
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They do understand, reason why they are trying to force other programs into being their "big game" of the year. Fabricated rivalries don't work, that is what they do not understand.


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DaleDenton


Like Arky-Arky State.
Dale,tell us about Arky's golden decade of the 60s. 0-5 vs Ole Miss
Posted by elit4ce05
Member since Jun 2011
3752 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 3:15 pm to
his post on TR didn't go as he planned so....
















































...he mad.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88124 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 3:18 pm to
it went exactly the way I thought it would go
Posted by elit4ce05
Member since Jun 2011
3752 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 3:20 pm to
seems to me most liked the 2:30 KO's ...until of course they got called figs for doing so.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88124 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 3:22 pm to
Like 2 people besides project said 2:30, the rest thought I was crazy for even asking because night is so obvious.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 3:36 pm to
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And why do you think those games still get high ratings even when one or both of the teams suck?

Uh, I'm just not seeing that...


The biggest names in college football unsurprisingly attracted the biggest numbers during the 2012 regular season. The highest rated and most-watched college football game of the season was the December 1 Alabama/Georgia SEC Championship Game on CBS (9.8, 16.2M), followed close behind by Notre Dame/Southern Cal on ABC November 24 (9.4, 16.1M).

Those two games rank as the fifth and sixth-most viewed regular season college football games of the past 20 years — a good omen for ESPN, which is scheduled to carry the January 7 Notre Dame/Alabama BCS National Championship Game.

Alabama also played in the third and fourth-most viewed games of the 2012 season. Their November 3 win over LSU drew a 6.8 and 11.3 million viewers, while their upset loss to Texas A&M the following week drew a 6.1 and 9.6 million.

Rounding out the top five this season was the November 24 Michigan/Ohio State game on ABC, which earned a 5.8 and 9.5 million viewers.


Alabama/Tennessee got a 2.5 rating which was surpassed by these matchups:

Tennessee v UGA
Tennessee v USC
Tennessee v Florida
Florida v LSU
USC v LSU
LSU v A&M
WLOCP
Bama v LSU
Bama v A&M
Bama v Michigan
Bama v Arky
LSU v Arky

LINK


And by the way, don't even TRY to compare UA/UT to Notre Dame/USC or Michigan/OSU or even UF/FSU.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 3:51 pm to
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ETA And by the way, I did speak up for the Jews!

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62471 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 3:57 pm to
The whiny Bama, Auburn and Georgia fans crying about traditional rivalries are no different than their grandpappys whining about negros joining their beloved foosball teams.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 3:58 pm to
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I find it troublesome you seriously do not understand how TV contracts work.



You really don't understand?

I believe you're just grabbing for my jimmies.

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If 1 member of the SEC refused to play the 2:30 slot, then how would that impact CBS?

Really?

How about this:

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If 1 member of the SEC refused to give up one of their annual rivals, then how would that impact the rest of the entire SEC schedule?

To this you would say, "I don't care."

So to your hypthetical, I will say, "I do not care."

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it would have made the SEC CBS deal less valuable.

Having imbalanced schedules impacts LSU's ability to win championships, so that makes the LSU brand less valuable.

Alabama's position here is simply untenable. The scheduling situation is an easy fix, and when that fix comes, Alabama fans will be crying about how it isn't fair and LSU fans will be telling them, "C'est la vie." (That's because LSU fans have more class.)

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:05 pm to
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Your post in the other thread made me think you were against traditions in college football. If I had a voice in the matter, LSU would certainly get to keep all their night games, and Bama-UT would play every year. I could give a crap about TV scheduling. But you are right about traditions slowly going away. With the media latched onto the scheduling one, I will be surprised if the UT-Bama game is kept. However, Bama wields a lot of power, and UT used to (not sure anymore since the brand/revenue is trailing over the cliff).


Wow, a decent reply that I should take seriously.

First of all, I thought UT revenues were okay, it was your outlays to all the contract buyouts from previous coaches that were burdening your budget and once you're finished paying them off, you'll be in the pink. Am I wrong on that?

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Your post in the other thread made me think you were against traditions in college football

No I'm not. But as an LSU fan I've come to realize that traditions - such as playing Tulane at the end of every season and night games - are fading away. With the advent of the playoffs, college football will look very different. Apparently money trumps tradition, sadly.

And between you and me [and whoever else might be sick enough to still be reading this thread] what REALLY rustles my jimmies is that I want LSU playing UT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE right now while UT is down and LSU is up - we've got a LONG way to go to even up the series.

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:07 pm to
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meh thats questionable

I bet if you made a composite of all the polls out there on best college stadiums, LSU would be at the top. I've already linked one writer who considers it the best.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:10 pm to
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So it is only a tradition to play conference games at night for LSU?

No, pig, the tradition is we play them ALL at night. Now we may see some seasons where we don't get a single conference night game.

Why is it that so many are questioning our traditions yet we aren't allowed to question others?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:13 pm to
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This be a thread ender if i've ever seen one

No, that's like saying, "Hey, Alabama and Tennessee will still get to play each other, just not every year."

Yeah, no duh, you want to play UT every year, and we want to play every game at night. One's your tradition, the other's ours.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:14 pm to
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Then leave the SEC = every game at night

Then YOU leave the SEC and play Tennessee whenever you want - OOC.
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
Crimson Tide Fan Club
Member since Oct 2012
15574 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:16 pm to
We don't have to at this point. Our rivalry has no effect on the deal. Also enough teams want to keep permanent opponents so LSU is out of luck.

13/14 groups of fans seem to not mind.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:18 pm to
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LSU fans - "We absolutely do not agree with CBS putting us in the biggest time slot available for college football. We deserve to be playing on ESPN2 at 8:00 pm because that's how we done did it for 50 years. This is so messed up, I am pissed."


Alabama fans -

"We absolutely do not agree with having to give up the UT game. We deserve to be playing UT every year when they are down and nobody really wants to watch. We would rather not play against better competition, like UGA and/or Florida, that might actually get higher ratings. After all, EVERYBODY watches the Turd-Saturday in October game. I am pissed."
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:20 pm to
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I'm for this. I'm also for eliminating regular season games not on Saturday and morning kickoffs.

Hear here!
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37696 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:22 pm to
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Then why not guarantee LSU 2 night SEC home games per year as well?


We ain't guaranteeing LSU shite.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:23 pm to
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13/14 groups of fans seem to not mind.

Of course not, becauise it keeps them from having to play UF, LSU and Bama more often. You think State wants to remove Kentucky from their annual schedule?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:25 pm to
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We ain't guaranteeing LSU shite.

Actually you are - pay.

That's why we gave up night games.

The same will happen to UA/UT. Money is changing college football, hop on the bus...
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