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re: Has Kiffin ever left a job in better shape than it was before he got there?
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:37 pm to Shunface
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:37 pm to Shunface
He’s a fricking idiot that enjoys hearing himself talk. Occasionally he has a decent point about something but I guess when you throw enough shite at something……there will eventually be something that sticks.
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:39 pm to Smokeyone
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I’m sure it did. The discussion is about him and how he left. His lawsuit, the way he left, the timing had been his issue. But he has matured since then I’m sure.
He didn’t leave the Raiders. Al fired him.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:43 pm to Shunface
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How are you this ignorant?
Pre-Kiffin, Alabama was three yards and a cloud of dust.
Once Kiffin arrived you learned to incorporate the forward pass.
This isn’t rocket science.
No, I'm not stupid. I just don't listen to the so called "talking heads" who don't know what the frick they are talking about and just create narratives for people assume.
The problem with your claim is that it's just not true.
AJ McCarron was our QB for 3 years before Kiffin.
I'm just doing all points, so I'm sure some defensive TDs are in here. But here we go:
2011: 34 points per game.
2012: 39 points per game.
2013: 38 points per game.
Kiffin years:
2014: 36 points per game
2015: 35 points per game
2016: 39 points per game
And it was either 2015 or 2016 where Alabama was basically scoring a TD on defense every game, so those are added in as well.
AJ Passing:
2011: 2634 yards, 16 TD, 5 INT
2012: 2933 yards, 30 TD, 3 INT
2013: 3064 yards, 28 TD, 7 INT
Now let's take a look at Kiffin years for our QB.
2014/Blake Sims: 3487 yards, 28 TD, 10 INT
2015/Jake Coker: 3110 yards, 21 TD, 8 INT
2016/Jalen Hurts: 2780 yards, 23 TD, 9 INT
Those people you listen to on TV don't generally know what the frick they are talking about. They just create narratives and run with it. I do a competitive thing that has announcers and while I think they are great, they are 90% of the time wrong in what they say.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:44 pm to 3down10
You……you just helped prove our point. 
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:44 pm to pankReb
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He’s a fricking idiot that enjoys hearing himself talk. Occasionally he has a decent point about something but I guess when you throw enough shite at something……there will eventually be something that sticks.
Blow me since you sure as frick can't make an argument.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:47 pm to 3down10
Sometimes it isn’t worth bothering trying to argue with someone who lacks an adults-level of intelligence.
Point proven.
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Blow me
Point proven.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:56 pm to pankReb
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Sometimes it isn’t worth bothering trying to argue with someone who lacks an adults-level of intelligence.
It doesn't matter, I still get to make the points and all you can do is cry about me.
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Point proven.
Meanwhile this is you in the previous post:
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He’s a fricking idiot
Which is about as much of an argument as your "adult-level intelligence" can muster.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:57 pm to pankReb
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You……you just helped prove our point.
Cool, the stats are there and the work is done for you. Now all you have to do is combine them into something that resembles an argument.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:58 pm to 3down10
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It doesn't matter, I still get to make the points
Very true. You are making your point. It’s an idiotic point that makes me wonder just how long you’ve even been a bama fan….but a point nonetheless.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:59 pm to 3down10
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Cool, the stats are there and the work is done for you. Now all you have to do is combine them into something that resembles an argument.
The other OM fan quite literally spelled it out for you. And then you posted stats that…..proved him right.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:01 pm to pankReb
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Very true. You are making your point. It’s an idiotic point that makes me wonder just how long you’ve even been a bama fan….but a point nonetheless.
I've been an Alabama fan since Bear was coach.
The least surprising thing here is that you're desperately trying to make the conversation about me personally rather than the topic being discussed.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:02 pm to pankReb
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The other OM fan quite literally spelled it out for you. And then you posted stats that…..proved him right.
Which stats specifically proved him right?
See, that's the kind of thing you could say and you could then call it an argument.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:03 pm to 3down10
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I've been an Alabama fan since Bear was coach.
Gotcha. So you’re just stupid. Carry on.
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The least surprising thing here is that you're desperately trying to make the conversation about me personally rather than the topic being discussed.
When the answer you’re searching for has been given and you fly past it at the speed of sound……yes….it becomes more about the person.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:06 pm to 3down10
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Which stats specifically proved him right? See, that's the kind of thing you could say and you could then call it an argument.
Just how simple does this need to be broken down for you? The other guy’s post was incredible simple to understand. Just read it. But read it in a way that you’re just not looking for an excuse to hear yourself talk.
You tried to say we just got our talking points from talking heads when all you’re doing is just pointing to numbers on a paper and that’s the relevant argument. Absolutely no one said Bama didn’t score points. Anyone with functional eyeballs and a fully developed brain knows what we’re talking about.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:06 pm to pankReb
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When the answer you’re searching for has been given and you fly past it at the speed of sound……yes….it becomes more about the person.
The guy made a claim, I posted the stats that proved him wrong.
You claimed the same stats proved him right, and yet you can't for the life you of actually point to the reason why.
I'm guessing soon you'll pull off a master of puppets defense.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:08 pm to 3down10
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The guy made a claim
It isn’t a claim. It’s factual.
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I posted the stats that proved him wrong. You claimed the same stats proved him right, and yet you can't for the life you of actually point to the reason why.
The reason why was in the post you responded to. I keep repeating that. I don’t know how to repeat that any simpler for you to understand.
You just look at numbers and think you understand football.
I’ll do you a favor. The answer is in this post.
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How are you this ignorant? Pre-Kiffin, Alabama was three yards and a cloud of dust. Once Kiffin arrived you learned to incorporate the forward pass. This isn’t rocket science.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:09 pm to Murph4HOF
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Southern Cal was hit with NCAA sanctions before he coached his first game, and had 10, 11, and 10 win seasons after he was fired
Damn thanks for sharing that. Pretty wild stat if you ask me. I guess they could only improve after the sanctions hit. He took one for the program while being generously compensated for it
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:12 pm to 3down10
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It was Daboll who won a NC with Hurts and Tua in 2017. I liked Daboll much better
Daboll had no idea how to use Hurts as a passer and he even regressed under him. Kiffin was able to win SEC championships with three vastly different starting QBs.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:12 pm to pankReb
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Just how simple does this need to be broken down for you? The other guy’s post was incredible simple to understand. Just read it. But read it in a way that you’re just not looking for an excuse to hear yourself talk.
You tried to say we just got our talking points from talking heads when all you’re doing is just pointing to numbers on a paper and that’s the relevant argument. Absolutely no one said Bama didn’t score points. Anyone with functional eyeballs and a fully developed brain knows what we’re talking about.
The guy claimed the Alabama offense was 3 yards and a cloud of dust.
That means it's a power run offense that rarely passes. That would be the 2009/2010 seasons if you want an example. Where all we did was run Mark Ingram like crazy with bubble screen passes to Julio Jones.
But once we had a good QB starting in 2011, that changed. Alabama was a pro-style team before Kiffin.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:13 pm to 3down10
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