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Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:21 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:21 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Why open up the discussion to their respective 2nd years when we're exactly 1/12th of the way into Bert's?
If you want to compare, compare apples to apples.
Their 1st years are similar in that both schools played poorly. They AREN'T similar in that Fran replaced the ever-loved Slocum who had at least built a consistent program up. Bret came in after 2 years of turmoil with no recruiting to speak of.
The similarities begin and end with W/L. If you stay in that vacuum, it makes sense.
If you want to compare, compare apples to apples.
Their 1st years are similar in that both schools played poorly. They AREN'T similar in that Fran replaced the ever-loved Slocum who had at least built a consistent program up. Bret came in after 2 years of turmoil with no recruiting to speak of.
The similarities begin and end with W/L. If you stay in that vacuum, it makes sense.
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:26 pm to ocelot4ark
I think it's fair to discuss whether 6-6 or 5-7 is a reasonable expectation for your season since it's already begun, in comparison to Fran's 7-5. I'm giving him a few games of leeway because of the difficulty of the SEC and the fact his situation is worse.
Slocums recruiting was not good in his later years though. Mack and Stoops were running circles around Slocum in his final few years and we were extremely thin in a couple areas. It wasn't as bad as your situation but it's not like he left behind some ready made contender
Slocums recruiting was not good in his later years though. Mack and Stoops were running circles around Slocum in his final few years and we were extremely thin in a couple areas. It wasn't as bad as your situation but it's not like he left behind some ready made contender
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:30 pm to ocelot4ark
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They AREN'T similar in that Fran replaced the ever-loved Slocum who had at least built a consistent program up. Bret came in after 2 years of turmoil with no recruiting to speak of.
Dennis Franchione had to start a WALK-ON at Middle Linebacker in the 2003 season. From 1999 (the recruiting class after the Big 12 Championship) to 2002, R.C. Slocum signed...wait for it...one inside linebacker (Bryan Gamble).
Let me say this again: Slocum managed to recruit one inside linebacker for a team that plays a 3-4 defense over the course of FOUR recruiting classes.
The only way in which Bert and Fran are NOT similar is that John L. Smith didn't preside over a steady decline over a period of 6-7 years and Slocum did.
A&M didn't just replace their head coach in the 2002-2003 academic year. They replaced their University President, Athletic Director AND head football coach in the same season.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:30 pm to skrangeo
Bert eats 22 tacos for breakfast.
Sam's Club + 22 make-your-own-tacos = everything you need to know about Arkansas.
Sam's Club + 22 make-your-own-tacos = everything you need to know about Arkansas.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:45 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Dennis Franchione had to start a WALK-ON at Middle Linebacker in the 2003 season. From 1999 (the recruiting class after the Big 12 Championship) to 2002, R.C. Slocum signed...wait for it...one inside linebacker
And we had to start a walk-on at LT last year and had FOUR total scholarship LBs on the roster in the spring. Not to mention we had to start two true freshman on the OL last year and our best receiver was a freshman TE.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:54 pm to gohogs141
Jeez - no shite. Our starting FB was originally a walk on, too. I know I saw some DT's rotating that are walk ons. I'm pretty sure he's given scholarships to at least 5-10 of our walk ons since he got here. THAT'S how low on talent we were.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:56 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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I think it's fair to discuss whether 6-6 or 5-7 is a reasonable expectation for your season since it's already begun, in comparison to Fran's 7-5. I'm giving him a few games of leeway because of the difficulty of the SEC and the fact his situation is worse.
Slocums recruiting was not good in his later years though. Mack and Stoops were running circles around Slocum in his final few years and we were extremely thin in a couple areas. It wasn't as bad as your situation but it's not like he left behind some ready made contender
Fair enough.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:59 pm to ocelot4ark
has Bert alienated every hs coach in Arkie yet? Has he created division within the team? has he hired a pr guy and a piece of crap head of football operations yet? has he sold a e-mail newletter to the highest bidders? has he been embarrassed in road games and in bowl games?
I think Bert has a lot of catching up to do, but I think he has it in him.
Also - why no recent pics of Miss Bert?
I think Bert has a lot of catching up to do, but I think he has it in him.
Also - why no recent pics of Miss Bert?
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