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re: ESPN graphic just said Alabama has 9 national titles

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Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:55 pm to
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and even that's counting 1973 when they LOST to ND in the Sugar Bowl. Pathetic



UPI gave us the national title. Suck it.

Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:55 pm to
Alabama currently claims 21 titles, they gained 7 this year after claiming the 7 Lance Armstrong was vacated.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36812 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:55 pm to
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Still not as bad as the national title Tennessee claims from 1967


Not even close. Tennessee won the SEC and Alabama was 3rd in 1941. They were 9-2 but the polls were finished before the bowls--remember 1964? Tennessee was 9-1 in the regular season.

Also they were #2 in the AP poll in '67. Alabama was #20 in 1941.
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:55 pm to
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I'm sure they count the 1973 UPI title where Alabama is "national champion" and Notre Dame is the AP Champion after beating Alabama in the Sugar Bowl.

Surely none of you clowns have tried to convince any Notre Dame fans that the Tide was National Championin 1973 ?
Bama won the UPI (coaches) and ND won the AP. Shared NC.
Posted by attheua
Tuscaloosa
Member since Apr 2008
5442 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:56 pm to
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I will always wonder why people refuse to understand that bowls didn't count back in the day. They were like a pro bowl, just a reward.


Other than Tennessee, the rest of the SEC doesn't have a pot to piss in when it comes to CFB history. It is almost pointless trying to argue with them imo
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69637 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:00 pm to
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Also they were #2 in the AP poll in '67. Alabama was #20 in 1941.



And here you fall into the trap that many other ignorant people seem to do when they are arguing this bullshite. The AP was NOT as highly regarded in 1941 as they were in 1967. The poll started to award a national champion regularly in '36. When they started doing that they were just one of MANY services that award national championships to college football teams. It wasn't until after World War II that the Associated Press began to gain superiority over the rest; and this is primarily due to the prestige the AP gained while reporting on the war. By 1967, the Associated Press was regarded as THE poll. Despite this, however, Tennessee claims a national championship that year despite failing to win a single major wire service poll. That fact makes their claim much worse than Alabama's title claim from '41, even with the SEC title they won that year.

It's not like all the teams began wanting to win the AP national title as soon as it came onto the scene. A little time and evolution is required.

This post was edited on 1/1/13 at 10:03 pm
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36812 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:03 pm to
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And here you fall into the trap that many other ignorant people seem to do when they are arguing this bull shite


You fools are like a dumb mule team. You just believe any nonsense your school slaps you are your brains with.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69637 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:05 pm to
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You fools are like a dumb mule team. You just believe any nonsense your school slaps you are your brains with.



When all you are left with is name calling I know I have done my job. Thanks for playing though.

Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:05 pm to
The UT one is worse because the AP (and Coaches) had already been around for awhile.



Posted by Mr Mojo Risin
Vestavia Hills
Member since Nov 2012
132 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:05 pm to
Per NCAA.com, we have 12 overall. 9 since 1936 in the "poll era." Which amounts to 9 since 1961. Quite a run.

LINK
This post was edited on 1/1/13 at 10:08 pm
Posted by FlukerFlakes
Member since Sep 2012
1940 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:06 pm to
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You fools are like a dumb mule team. You just believe any nonsense your school slaps you are your brains with.


Like I said earlier....


Just to be fair:

Bama has 9 national titles, not the 14 they claim

BUT....

Tennessee only has 2, not the 6 they claim

(yes Tennessee claims 6)
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36812 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:06 pm to
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When all you are left with is name calling I know I have done my job. Thanks for playing though.


the guy saying "ignorant people" ? Take 10 seconds before you hit send or post.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36812 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:08 pm to
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Bama has 9 national titles, not the 14 they claim


I hope for your sake none of your fellow Tide fans run an i.p address check. You're a brave man.
Posted by FlukerFlakes
Member since Sep 2012
1940 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:08 pm to
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Like I said earlier....


Just to be fair:

Bama has 9 national titles, not the 14 they claim

BUT....

Tennessee only has 2, not the 6 they claim

(yes Tennessee claims 6)


Bama's claimed titles are 55% more than their accepted titles.

BUT,

Tennessee's claimed titles are 300% more than their accepted titles.

300 PERCENT!

So, my question is.....why does only Alabama get shite about our claims and Tennessee gets none?

Seems backward to me.


Additionally,

Michigans claimed titles are 550% more than their accepted titles.....What about them?

This post was edited on 1/1/13 at 10:14 pm
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:09 pm to
UT's 40 and 67 claims are awful. 50 is very sketchy as well. I think 38 is legit though.
The CFDW recognizes 4 (38, 50, 51, 98).
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:10 pm to
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Bama's claimed titles are 55% more than their accepted titles.

BUT,

Tennessee's claimed titles are 300% more than their accepted titles.

300 PERCENT!

So, my question is.....why does only Alabama get shite about our claims and Tennessee gets none?

Seems backward to me.

Trust me, I give UT fans MUCH more shite about their claims than Bama.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36812 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:11 pm to
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So, my question is.....why does only Alabama get shite about our claims and Tennessee gets none?


Tennessee's 1938 claim is legit as is Alabama's 1966 or 1945 for that matter,IMO.

But you're correct. Tennessee's claim of six is insane.
Posted by Mr Mojo Risin
Vestavia Hills
Member since Nov 2012
132 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:11 pm to
I claim 12. The 1941 claim is bogus. But I have no problem claiming any of the others the NCAA lists given how we were screwed in 1966 and 77.

It doesn't really matter. As long as you use similar criteria to compare schools, Bama is on top. What I love is when the Barners try to use very restrictive criteria for us and then claim titles in 93 and 04 for themselves.
This post was edited on 1/1/13 at 10:13 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149440 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:11 pm to
this thread has potential to go 10 pages
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:13 pm to
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Did Alabama and Notre Dame play one another in 1966?


Bama doesn't count 1966, but I'll argue with you all day on that one. I'll gladly give you 1973 if you'll give me '66.

Bama was the AP Champ in '64 & '65. The Tide went undefeated in '66, but didn't win the title? Give me a break. That team had 6 shutouts, give up double digit points only TWICE (10 & 14). They gave up an average of FOUR points per game. Argue '73 all you want. I won't put up too much of a fight (though I'm sure any other school wouldn't turn down a title in those same standards back the ). '66 deserved it. I defy anyone to have a compelling argument against them.

Why does it matter to rival fans so much? 14? 9? What does it matter? It's still more than your team - whoever that might be.
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