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re: Does Ole Miss have a legit chance to win the secw

Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:19 pm to
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:19 pm to
Losing players equates to getting better in Oxford, apparently.

I wouldn't worry.
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:20 pm to
When you replace them with better players, uh yeah. Kinda like anyone saying we would take a step back at QB because we lost a three year starter the previous year.
This post was edited on 3/31/16 at 2:21 pm
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:20 pm to
Don't forget when Denzel was out for the 2014 year....Bryant stepped in his spot and lead the team in tackles. That position will get a ton of tackles just by its nature.
Posted by VivaZapata27
Natchez, Ms
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:21 pm to
Damn, we must be the only team that had seniors last year. You keep trying to convince yourself that Ole Miss will be worse. Here's a look at our starting defense next year. It will be good.
End-Fadol Brown-starter
End-Marquis Haynes-starter
Nose-DJ Jones-starter
Tackle-Breeland Speaks-ended year as starter
Bonus D line-Issac Gross, former 3 year starter

LB-Marquis Haynes-team's leading tackler
LB-Rommell Maggeo-team's leading tackler

Safety- AA Tony Connor-starter(injured)
Safety-CJ Hampton(2 Starts)
Safety-tba-top hs safety signee in the mix
Corner-Tony Bridges-Starter
Corner-K Webster- starter
We will start one guy who isn't either the returning starter or has multiple starts las year. I feel a lot better about this defense than last year and rightfully so. Last year we had new starters at both corners, two safety positions(changed positions), both linebackers and nose guard.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:21 pm to
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Losing players equates to getting better in Oxford, apparently



You guys lost starters last year. Ur gonna suck hurrrrr *digs finger in ear.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50702 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:22 pm to
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When you replace them with better players, uh yeah.




"Better". I'm sure you think it's a given that Connor and the DT come back as strong as ever too.

Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
17939 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:24 pm to
That would be optimistic. It's common sense they come back better than what they were last year given one didn't play at all and has gone from a 235lb DT to a 260lbs DT and they other only played half a season.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50702 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:24 pm to
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You guys lost starters last year. Ur gonna suck hurrrrr *digs finger in ear.


OM is the only school in the country not affected by attrition. I didn't realize that guys, my mistake.
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
17939 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:26 pm to
So when we say we will be worse at OT, DT, and safety, that isn't us saying attrition will hurt us? Are we suppose to be worse at every single position?
Posted by Jenar Boy
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:26 pm to
I'll grant part of your point but all these other stars have a direct influence on scoring defense. TFL, sacks, INT's, forced fumble/recoveries, passes defended/break ups. If all those numbers are lower you are giving up more points. If you can't force short fields and create turnovers your chances of giving up points is greatly increased.
To say scoring defense is the only stat that matters is silly.
This post was edited on 3/31/16 at 2:28 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50702 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:28 pm to
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So when we say we will be worse at OT, DT, and safety, that isn't us saying attrition will hurt us? Are we suppose to be worse at every single position?


When you say all of that and then couple it with "but we will still be better"? Not to mention the "but the players taking their place are better" argument.

Yes, you're saying attrition doesn't affect you.
Posted by VivaZapata27
Natchez, Ms
Member since Apr 2013
3777 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:32 pm to
No, we are just saying that it affects EVERYONE the same. It's a part of the sport. If losing good players makes you worse then every team will be worse every year.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
71561 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:33 pm to
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OM is the only school in the country not affected by attrition. I didn't realize that guys, my mistake



There is only attrition and absolutely no improvement in college football. That's why all defense's get worse every year. The best defense ever was the very first defense ever created because you can only lose players and never improve. That's why defense's are worse year after year after year....because every year they lose people.



Did that pretty much sum up your logical reasoning?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50702 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:36 pm to
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pankReb


Nah bro. Y'all are all right.

Losing that much production is nothing. There's no chance that OM's defense could take a step back.

Posted by EC Reb
Member since Sep 2012
647 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:36 pm to
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RB10

Take it easy buddy, we're skull fricking your rookie coach and his Lloyd Christmas haircut either way
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
71561 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:43 pm to
I'm still trying to figure out we can even field a team when every year we lose players. Only a matter of time before we won't even have any more college football players.


Guys....we gotta figure this out. Maybe we can bring some guys back from injury. Oh....here's an idea. We can recruit players to come play for us to help replace some of the guys that left. Hell....maybe theres a guy at another school that could transfer in for a year.




Whatta-ya think guys. Is this a possibility?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50702 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:45 pm to


You don't like the idea of attrition, which is an undeniable factor in CFB, so you attack it by taking it to the extreme.

That's some world class deflection sir.
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
17939 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:49 pm to
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When you say all of that and then couple it with "but we will still be better"? Not to mention the "but the players taking their place are better" argue

Yes, you're saying attrition doesn't affect you.


I said that about one position group which was our biggest weakness last year. You can't be this unintelligent, and simply arguing points you know aren't in line with what I've said. How am I saying attrition won't affect us when I'm now saying for the third time we will be worse at DT, OT, and safety??
This post was edited on 3/31/16 at 2:51 pm
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
71561 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:50 pm to
And evidently you don't like the idea of replacing attrition, which is also an undeniable factor in CFB.


We've tried correcting you. You just can't do anything other than "nuh uhhhh I CANT HEAR YOU BLAHLAHLAHLAHLAHLAH ".


I'm sorry that you handle adversity like a 12 year old girl. Wait.....no I'm not. That's you're problem....not mine.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50702 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:50 pm to
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I said that about one position group which was our biggest weakness last year. You can't be this unintelligent, and simply arguing points you know aren't in line with what I've said.


Every OM fan's opinion in this thread is that you can't be worse, yet you're calling someone else unintelligent?

Gold.
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