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re: Dawn Staley is the highest paid female coach in the world.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 10:22 am to djsdawg
Posted on 1/19/25 at 10:22 am to djsdawg
Sigh.
Explanation
A player cannot grasp, pull, twist, or turn an opponent's facemask.
A player must immediately release an opponent's facemask if they grasp it.
If a player controls an opponent by not releasing the facemask, it is a foul.
If the defense commits a facemask penalty, it is also an automatic first down.
A player may be disqualified if the facemask penalty is flagrant.
Note the term facemask is used. And you can touch the facemask if you immediately release it. The play in question never had his facemask touched. It was incidental contact to the head at best and hands to the face as described in the ncaa handbook until about 5 years ago as a 5 yard penalty. However that hasn’t been enforced in years. Just like the 12 men on the field call that was called when UGA made a late substitution and the Vol players did not spiny off the field.
It was a random arbitrary flag with no rule to support it. Strictly the refs protecting the home UGA team. And if you had a basic understanding of the game, the rules, and the crew calling the game we wouldn’t need to have this discussion. It’s nuanced and you are simply incapable of understanding it. But it’s not your fault, it’s poor or difficult genetics and your inability to overcome them.
The last word is yours.
Explanation
A player cannot grasp, pull, twist, or turn an opponent's facemask.
A player must immediately release an opponent's facemask if they grasp it.
If a player controls an opponent by not releasing the facemask, it is a foul.
If the defense commits a facemask penalty, it is also an automatic first down.
A player may be disqualified if the facemask penalty is flagrant.
Note the term facemask is used. And you can touch the facemask if you immediately release it. The play in question never had his facemask touched. It was incidental contact to the head at best and hands to the face as described in the ncaa handbook until about 5 years ago as a 5 yard penalty. However that hasn’t been enforced in years. Just like the 12 men on the field call that was called when UGA made a late substitution and the Vol players did not spiny off the field.
It was a random arbitrary flag with no rule to support it. Strictly the refs protecting the home UGA team. And if you had a basic understanding of the game, the rules, and the crew calling the game we wouldn’t need to have this discussion. It’s nuanced and you are simply incapable of understanding it. But it’s not your fault, it’s poor or difficult genetics and your inability to overcome them.
The last word is yours.
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 10:39 am to Smokeyone
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Note the term facemask is used. And you can touch the facemask if you immediately release it.
This is the rule:
No player shall continuously contact an opponent’s face, helmet (including the face mask) or neck with hand(s) or arm(s)
Your guy failed to immediately release it. Thats always a foul.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 10:43 am to Lonnie Utah
Cool, now she can afford to shop wherever Mulkey has been getting those sparkly jackets.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 10:59 am to djsdawg
Go watch the play. Incidental contact. He never pulled, turned, or used the head to control the player. Look at the 2024 rule book, not the NFL rule. Again, nuance is beyond you. That was a most a 5 yard penalty.
Here’s the actual rule:
Helmet and Face Mask Fouls
ARTICLE 8 a No player shall continuously contact an opponent’s face, helmet (including the face mask) or neck with hand(s) or arm(s) (Exception: By or against the runner) [S26]
b No player shall grasp and then twist, turn or pull the face mask, chin strap
or any helmet opening of an opponent It is not a foul if the face mask, chin strap or helmet opening is not grasped and then twisted, turned or pulled When in question, it is a foul
Since he did not grasp, twist, pull it is not a penalty.
***** Source 2024 NCAA rule book page 102 of the PDF.
Nuance. But it’s not your fault.
Here’s the actual rule:
Helmet and Face Mask Fouls
ARTICLE 8 a No player shall continuously contact an opponent’s face, helmet (including the face mask) or neck with hand(s) or arm(s) (Exception: By or against the runner) [S26]
b No player shall grasp and then twist, turn or pull the face mask, chin strap
or any helmet opening of an opponent It is not a foul if the face mask, chin strap or helmet opening is not grasped and then twisted, turned or pulled When in question, it is a foul
Since he did not grasp, twist, pull it is not a penalty.
***** Source 2024 NCAA rule book page 102 of the PDF.
Nuance. But it’s not your fault.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:14 am to Smokeyone
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He never pulled,
He pulled, which is why his helmet came off. It didn’t just magically fall off.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:53 am to djsdawg
Watch the play. He never pulled. He never touched the facemask.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 12:02 pm to djsdawg
Wandered into last page of women's basketball thread to see if any talk about basketball and find arguments about face masks.
Never change SR
Never change SR
Posted on 1/19/25 at 12:15 pm to djsdawg
Where do you see him pulling? I see his hand open, if anything he’s attempting to stop the helmet from coming off. Maybe the UGA player should learn to us a chin strap.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 12:55 pm to Smokeyone
Pulling the lower part of the helmet, which is a foul.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 1:03 pm to djsdawg
Put your video doesn’t show that, look at it this time instead of just believing it’s what you were told.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 1:56 pm to Smokeyone
In the video, we see the vol player grasp the helmet with his fingers and pull it, and then it came off. David copperfield didn’t make it happen. Your player did.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 2:15 pm to djsdawg
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n the video, we see the vol player grasp the helmet with his fingers and pull it
With the tips of his fingers with them extended? Physics doesn’t work like that. Especially when he is moving the other direction from the helmet.
Chin strap issue, not a penalty.
I know the analysis of a short clip is too much for you, have your grandmother explain it to you.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 2:18 pm to Smokeyone
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With the tips of his fingers with them extended?
Yes. His finger tips gripped the helmet and you can see the helmet move as he pulled it. His helmet doesn’t come off if it’s not pulled.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 4:39 pm to Lonnie Utah
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This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 1/22/25 at 2:35 am to Bearded
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This board will be a fun read when UVA goes full woke and hires Staley as MBB head coach later this year.
Would be hilarious to see woke UVA go full woke.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 3:58 am to Lonnie Utah
I was curious as to how this thread about women's basketball reached seven pages so I jumped to the end. Somewhere along the way it devolved into a football discussion. 
Carry on.
Carry on.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 4:56 am to RollTide1987
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Somewhere along the way it devolved into a football discussion
As it should every time someone brings up womens bball.
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