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re: Danny Sheridan: SEC will expand to 14 or 16

Posted on 7/29/11 at 6:23 pm to
Posted by eman65
Member since Aug 2009
412 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 6:23 pm to
Bronwyn,Texas is as southern as any state in the SEC, except for Kentucky. To make a true southern state conference, we need to add a school from North Carolina, Texas, and Virginia.
This post was edited on 7/29/11 at 6:26 pm
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 6:39 pm to
I don't buy that LR is our largest alumni base "by far" anymore. NWA has 450k people. Fort Smith metro has 200k more. Fayetteville has the largest percentage of degree holding adults in the state, and most went to Arkansas for that degree.

LR has the largest number of UCA and Arkansas State graduates, by far, as there aren't a lot of those up here in NWA.

There probably are still more Arkansas grads in LR than in NWA, but its not as large a margin as it used to be.

NWA alums and fans are the ones who pack Baum and (used to and hopefully will again) Bud Walton.

NWA fans (and current students) would be 4 hours from Mizzou, 3 from Ok St and 3.5 from OU.

Right now our closest road trip is Ole Miss.

I was talking about visiting fans coming to Razorback Stadium. OU and OSU would definitely sell out the visitor's section here, easily, every year. Most current SEC teams turn back tickets. The exceptions are Bama and LSU in Little Rock.

Still, I don't want the SEC to expand. Leave it alone.
This post was edited on 7/29/11 at 6:43 pm
Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
9202 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 9:10 pm to
quote:

wmr
Danny Sheridan: SEC will expand to 14 or 16
I don't buy that LR is our largest alumni base "by far" anymore. NWA has 450k people. Fort Smith metro has 200k more. Fayetteville has the largest percentage of degree holding adults in the state, and most went to Arkansas for that degree.

LR has the largest number of UCA and Arkansas State graduates, by far, as there aren't a lot of those up here in NWA.

There probably are still more Arkansas grads in LR than in NWA, but its not as large a margin as it used to be.

NWA alums and fans are the ones who pack Baum and (used to and hopefully will again) Bud Walton.

NWA fans (and current students) would be 4 hours from Mizzou, 3 from Ok St and 3.5 from OU.

Right now our closest road trip is Ole Miss.

I was talking about visiting fans coming to Razorback Stadium. OU and OSU would definitely sell out the visitor's section here, easily, every year. Most current SEC teams turn back tickets. The exceptions are Bama and LSU in Little Rock.

Still, I don't want the SEC to expand. Leave it alone.




It's only been the past 13 years you even had a true highway to NWA. It's a new trend people are staying in NWA not Little Rock or Dallas. Also, the entire state of Arkansas, a vast majority who did not attend the campus are Hog Fans. Arkansas' enrollment is now increasing because of the Lottery (about time) and the influx of Texas kids.

No your closest road trip from Fayetteville is Ole Miss. The closest from El Dorado, Ark is Baton Rouge, yes Baton Rouge is closer to El Dorado, Ark than Fayetteville. Little Rock is split evenly between Arkansas and Ole Miss.

All of that doesn't change the fact Ole Miss and Mississippi State are always sold out with Hog fans and Little Rock is closer to 6 SEC stadiums than New Orleans which is only 4 in a 350 mile radius.

I've been to Ole Miss and MSU more than once each. We ALWAYS have a sell out for Ole Miss, MSU, Vandy (Man it's been a long time since we've been to Nashville) Bama and LSU. Fayetteville is the same distance to Little Rock as Ole Miss is to Little Rock, almost exactly. Again it doesn't matter rival fans do not bring the revenue it's TV money.

Auburn sells out, Tennessee sells out, Alabama sold out, Ole Miss small fan base and awful team same for MSU each time they play in Fayetteville. However, this year MSU will sell out easily in Little Rock. LSU would sell out in Fayetteville, easily. Shreveport, LA is the 2nd closest SEC school behind Baton Rouge.

I like being farther removed just like Penn State is from the rest of the Big10. Their state is just like Arkansas completely in the region just campus is farther away.

Tennessee brings a title wave of fans and plus Memphis is closer to Fayetteville than Knoxville by over an hour. They will do it again this year like they always have to Fayetteville. I was completely impressed with how Auburn has sold out each time for Fayetteville. They are the farthest school in the West.

Not just that, why in the world what anyone want more than 10,000 Rival fans at your home game? If you want to see fans taking over a stadium go to Little Rock and watch about 15,000 tiger fans regularly and another 5,000 tailgating outside.

Jonesboro (Arkansas State) is literally a stones throw from Memphis and you tell me which side of the state you'd like to visit?
Cotton and Soy Beans or the Boston Mountains with a true metroplex and options, ha, It's not even close and everyone knows it.

Side Note: Have you ever been to Stillwater or Norman, lol, No Thanks! Flat, ugly and not much character. I'll gladly go back to Starkville and Oxford long before I'll ever go back to Stillwater or Norman.

This post was edited on 7/29/11 at 9:36 pm
Posted by Sig
dallas
Member since Oct 2010
2042 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 10:04 pm to
TexA&M/OU/Missouri

quote:

and they certainly don't bring the academics like unc and ga tech.


Wrong. Except OU.
Posted by HawgAlude
Member since Jul 2008
5658 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 10:17 pm to
TAMU and UARK were the Engineering schools in the ole southwest conference. I really would not mind TAMU coming in other than their bizarre traditions and complete lack of good looking women. It would bring back a good rivalry with us and would make it work. The only half way rivalry we have right now is LSU and they do not consider it a rivalry more like a pain in the rear.

Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 10:19 pm to
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Shreveport, LA is the 2nd closest SEC school behind Baton Rouge.


I think you meant "closest city in an SEC state", but I'm guessing here.

Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
9202 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 10:27 pm to
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TigersOfGeauxld
Danny Sheridan: SEC will expand to 14 or 16
quote:
Shreveport, LA is the 2nd closest SEC school behind Baton Rouge.


I think you meant "closest city in an SEC state", but I'm guessing here.




I literally gotta stop multi-tasking and read what I type. I know what I mean in my head but it doesn't always transition.

I meant..

Shreveport, LA, 3rd largest city in Louisiana, closest BCS schools are LSU then Arkansas.

Shreveport to Baton Rouge - 260 Miles
Shreveport to Fayetteville - 300 Miles
Shreveport to Ole Miss - 340 Miles

LSU would have plenty of fans from Northern Louisiana travel to Fayetteville.

The bottom line is no one wants to travel if your team isn't all that great unless you are going for the experience. After that you will hardly be a repeat customer unless your teams are good.
This post was edited on 7/29/11 at 10:28 pm
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 10:29 pm to
I get what you're saying and I totally agree!

Move the damn game to Fayetteville!

Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5913 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 10:33 pm to
Shreveport to College Station, Tx - 230 miles

ETA: that's the closest BCS school to Shreveport
This post was edited on 7/29/11 at 10:35 pm
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 10:35 pm to
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Shreveport, LA, 3rd largest city in Louisiana


Wow, I'm surprised that Baton Rouge is still over Shreveport for second-largest in the state. Guess at least some of the post-Katrina refugees stuck around. I know Red Stick at one point was larger than NOLA for a bit.

Posted by LSU1860
West Louisiana
Member since Mar 2006
1344 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 10:43 pm to
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Any theorized A&M move that doesn't involve Tech & Baylor just isn't happening......


Like hell...Longhorn arrogance at its finest. FTEXAS and the LHN.

Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
9202 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 10:48 pm to
quote:

Big Kat
Danny Sheridan: SEC will expand to 14 or 16
Shreveport to College Station, Tx - 230 miles

ETA: that's the closest BCS school to Shreveport



Actually, it's TCU 222 Miles, ha ha. They are Big East bound next year.

I did say BCS which makes you correct. As for SEC goes Ark is #2 LSU is #1.

Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
9202 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

TigersOfGeauxld
Danny Sheridan: SEC will expand to 14 or 16
I get what you're saying and I totally agree!

Move the damn game to Fayetteville!






2016, the War Memorial (Little Rock) contract is up. I think y'all would much rather come to the pretty hills on a brisk evening than ducking for cover in Little Rock.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 11:12 pm to
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I think y'all would much rather come to the pretty hills on a brisk evening than ducking for cover in Little Rock.


Little Rock gives me flashbacks to when I was in my last year of high school near Jackson, MS. Same bad vibe.

The only time LSU fans get to vist Fayettenam is when we play up at Baum. It's a shame.
Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
6196 posts
Posted on 8/1/11 at 11:06 am to
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I think simply add A&M and FSU. I dont see much benefit from adding any of the others.

i would be all for this but i think the gators would block this from happening (FSU).

i think tamu and VT is more likely. blacksburg is pretty effing close to knoxville relatively speaking.

i hope the conference doesn't expand but if they did this would be the way to go. and even though the distance btwn the two would suck a VT vs tamu would be a good intra conf lock because of the military traditions.
Posted by SwampTider
Member since Jun 2011
958 posts
Posted on 8/1/11 at 11:23 am to
If Sheridan says it, you can take it to the bank.
Posted by KajunGator
Lake Arthur, LA
Member since May 2011
7678 posts
Posted on 8/1/11 at 11:30 am to
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like Baylor is SEC material.


Vandy needs a rival
Posted by LSUisjustOK
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2011
3506 posts
Posted on 8/1/11 at 11:32 am to
quote:

You could be right, but IMO Texas politics won't play a very big part in all this


There's a lot of Texas money at stake, the Texas politics will play a huge role.
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