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re: Could Gruden beat Nick Saban or Les Miles?

Posted on 4/23/12 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 1:41 pm to
The Media frenzy that would take place would be more than enough publicity needed for a top 6-7 SEC program(Arkansas) to take their recruiting to a whole other level.

Couple that with the fact he's a super bowl caliber coach, and you have the recipe for a highly succesful coaching hire.

Gruden could dominate the SEC and college football.

Oh yah, forgot to add, he's never going to coach college football.
Posted by secfan123
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 1:42 pm to
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Gruden could dominate the SEC and college football.


mike sherman had a better winning percentage than gruden.
Posted by secfan123
beverly hills
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 1:44 pm to
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A technicality? Since when is a teams conference record a technicality?


0-4 against saban and never finished ranked ahead of us.
Posted by MottLaneKid
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 1:47 pm to
Coach Gruden would be an excellent teacher for young college kids. The key for him would be to convince the young men whom he is recruiting to come to the Arkansas program and learn from the very best the NFL has to offer. That would mean delegating most of the teaching to top-notch assistants who know what it takes to mold and form men into potential NFL talent.

Also, to convince the young men that you are going to be at Arkansas for the long term and not pull up roots when the next big gig in the NFL comes along. You have to have the want to build Arkansas into a powerhouse and create for yourself a college football legacy. IF Gruden is "all in" then it could work nicely.

Of course, it is basically recruiting that wins games. If Coach Gruden took over the 2011 Alabama Football team, Alabama prob. still plays for a National Title. Talent wins period !

Posted by secfan123
beverly hills
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 1:48 pm to
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learn from the very best the NFL has to offer




Posted by MottLaneKid
Gonzales
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 1:51 pm to
Check that..."learn from top-notch assistants who were once a part of an NFL staff ( or played at a high level in the NFL or worked with Gruden before).
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 1:52 pm to
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learn from the very best the NFL has to offer.



Bellicheck and Payton aren't going to Arky

I get it - Gruden is telegenic and comes off very well on television. But this is the Harding effect and has very little to do with whether or not he would be a good college coach.

People were very sure Charlie Weiss and Mike Sherman would waltz into high school kid's living rooms and wow every recruit - it just didn't turn out that way
Posted by MottLaneKid
Gonzales
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 1:55 pm to
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Could Gruden beat Nick Saban or Les Miles?



quote:


learn from the very best the NFL has to offer.





Bellicheck and Payton aren't going to Arky

I get it - Gruden is telegenic and comes off very well on television. But this is the Harding effect and has very little to do with whether or not he would be a good college coach.

People were very sure Charlie Weiss and Mike Sherman would waltz into high school kid's living rooms and wow every recruit - it just didn't turn out that way


Very good points !
Posted by ocelot4ark
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 1:59 pm to
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People were very sure Charlie Weiss and Mike Sherman would waltz into high school kid's living rooms and wow every recruit - it just didn't turn out that way


To be fair, neither of those guys were nearly as "public" as Gruden is. He's constantly on ESPN and MNF. That, alone, will buy him cred with recruits.

But, like I said earlier, I doubt it's him.
Posted by TigerBait2008
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Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 4:35 pm to
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ShreveportHog94


Hey the dumbass is back!!
Posted by Biker Dad
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 4:53 pm to
and then get arse raped by Ohio State
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
63962 posts
Posted on 4/23/12 at 5:07 pm to
85% of college football is recruiting. All things being equal Gruden is a better coach
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