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re: Could Bama's success be a result of a down year in the
Posted on 11/22/08 at 12:58 pm to WarEagleTwentyFour
Posted on 11/22/08 at 12:58 pm to WarEagleTwentyFour
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I get the feeling the sec is always down unless lsu wins the sec
Man you hit the nail on the head with that one. I found this on the SEC's website and it certainly goes to show that the SEC is eerily similar to last year.
Standings
SEC Overall
School W-L Pct. PF PA W-L Pct. PF PA 2007 Div. T25 Str.
EASTERN DIVISON
*Florida 7-1 .875 359 100 9-1 .900 441 113 7-3 5-0 3-0 W6
Georgia 6-2 .750 215 214 9-2 .818 343 262 9-2 4-1 3-2 W2
Vanderbilt 4-3 .571 134 154 6-4 .600 213 198 5-5 2-2 2-2 W1
S. Carolina 4-4 .500 163 186 7-4 .636 246 212 6-5 2-3 0-3 L1
Kentucky 2-5 .286 133 210 6-5 .545 259 232 7-4 0-4 0-3 L2
Tennessee 1-5 .167 81 129 3-7 .300 160 181 7-3 0-3 0-4 L3
WESTERN DIVISON
#Alabama 7-0 1.000 219 115 11-0 1.000 349 138 6-5 4-0 3-0 W11
LSU 3-3 .500 164 192 7-3 .700 321 249 9-1 2-1 1-3 W1
Ole Miss 3-3 .500 132 136 6-4 .600 294 200 3-7 2-1 1-2 W3
Auburn 2-5 .286 93 113 5-6 .455 208 180 7-4 1-3 0-3 L1
Arkansas 1-5 .167 108 187 4-6 .400 204 313 6-4 1-2 2-3 L1
Miss. State 1-5 .167 66 131 3-7 .300 152 223 6-4 0-3 1-3 L2
NOTES: 2007 - Record after same number of games in 2007 / vs. Top 25 - Record vs. teams in Top 25 when game was played; Teams listed in alphabetical order unless tie-breaker applicable / * - Eastern Division Champion and SEC Championship Game Representative / # - Western Division Champion and SEC Championship Game Representative
According to their records, at this point last year, the SEC teams were a combined 78-47. This season, the SEC has "tumbled" to a 76-49 record.
Of course, I blame Tennessee for losing to UCLA and Wyoming for the records not being equal. You can also blame Vandy for not beating Duke and MSU for losing to La. Tech.
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Posted on 11/22/08 at 1:03 pm to WarEagleTwentyFour
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I get the feeling the sec is always down unless lsu wins the sec
don't be an idiot. LSU, AU, Arky, and Tenn are all worse than they've been in at least 5 years. that alone is a pretty significant drop off, the rest of the conference isn't good enough this year to make up for that.
Posted on 11/22/08 at 1:12 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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don't be an idiot. LSU, AU, Arky, and Tenn are all worse than they've been in at least 5 years. that alone is a pretty significant drop off, the rest of the conference isn't good enough this year to make up for that.
In 2005 Tennessee was 5-6. Auburn lost 4 games last year, and Arkansas lost 5. LSU has averaged 2.5 losses a year over the past 5 years.
As for the rest of the conference, Ole Miss is going to a bowl game since 2003, Vandy since forever. Florida is 2-3 wins better this year than last year, while Georgia is on pace to have the same record.
Speaking of Georgia, LSU got extremely lucky they skipped them on their way to the NC last season, especially in the SEC championship game. I don't care what anybody says, Georgia was the best team in the country at the end of the year, by far.
Posted on 11/22/08 at 1:27 pm to TideSaint
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In 2005 Tennessee was 5-6. Auburn lost 4 games last year, and Arkansas lost 5. LSU has averaged 2.5 losses a year over the past 5 years.
hold on, are you actually trying to argue that these teams aren't significantly worse this year?
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As for the rest of the conference, Ole Miss is going to a bowl game since 2003, Vandy since forever. Florida is 2-3 wins better this year than last year, while Georgia is on pace to have the same record.
Florida is better, UGA appears to be worse this year despite having the same record. OM and Vandy being better doesn't really balance out the teams that are worse. besides, the west this year is obviously significantly worse regardless of the overall condition of the conference.
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Speaking of Georgia, LSU got extremely lucky they skipped them on their way to the NC last season, especially in the SEC championship game. I don't care what anybody says, Georgia was the best team in the country at the end of the year, by f
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Posted on 11/22/08 at 1:28 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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don't be an idiot. LSU, AU, Arky, and Tenn are all worse than they've been in at least 5 years.
And other teams in the SEC (UM, USC, Bama, and Vandy) are doing better! SO!
I guess wins are only valid if your name is LSU, AU, Arky, and Tenn.
If it makes LSU fans feel better, then so be it!
Posted on 11/22/08 at 1:29 pm to Bama Doug
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And other teams in the SEC (UM, USC, Bama, and Vandy) are doing better! SO!
I guess wins are only valid if your name is LSU, AU, Arky, and Tenn.
holy shite some of you bama fans are stupid. can you at the very least admit that the west is way down this year? i have a feeling that will be asking for way more objectivity than you're capable of..
Posted on 11/22/08 at 1:32 pm to TideSaint
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LSU has averaged 2.5 losses a year over the past 5 years.
you must really suck at math. LSU's past 5 seasons:
2003 -1
2004 - 3
2005 -2
2006 -2
2007 - 2
what is 10 divided by 5?
Posted on 11/22/08 at 1:37 pm to TulaneTigerFan
the sec is having a down year but nevertheless bama's schedule is not that tough. Georgia is the only tough opponent that bama had. but bama is the best team in the west without question,
Posted on 11/22/08 at 1:42 pm to tigerland007
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tigerland007
nice first post
Posted on 11/22/08 at 1:44 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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can you at the very least admit that the west is way down this year?
I'll say the SEC is a tad bit down from last year. Way down, NOPE!
This post was edited on 11/22/08 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 11/22/08 at 6:13 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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you must really suck at math. LSU's past 5 seasons:
2003 -1
2004 - 3
2005 -2
2006 -2
2007 - 2
what is 10 divided by 5?
I was counting the losses this season, and you can add another one to that tally after getting killed by Ole Miss today.
14 divided by 6= 2.33
Posted on 11/22/08 at 6:50 pm to BamaScoop
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BAMA's success is based on the fact that we are building an animal in Tuscaloosa, but I do agree that we are not there yet and the SEC overall is down.
This kind of talk really blows my mind. Carpe diem. It's irrelevant if the SEC is down or not. If you win, you win.
We're not there yet? Never bullshite yourself out of a chance to win.
Posted on 11/22/08 at 7:08 pm to TideSaint
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I was counting the losses this season, and you can add another one to that tally after getting killed by Ole Miss today.
14 divided by 6= 2.33
apparently you suck at logic as well as math. counting the losses from this season doesn't make any sense when you're comparing this team to the past 5 years. you fail again
Posted on 11/22/08 at 7:15 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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apparently you suck at logic as well as math. counting the losses from this season doesn't make any sense when you're comparing this team to the past 5 years. you fail again
Because the losses aren't finalized until the end of the season right?
Posted on 11/22/08 at 7:20 pm to Crimsonpanther13
you are totally missing the point. i said that this was the worst LSU team in at least the past 5 years and he responded by saying that LSU has averaged 2.5 losses per year in that time period so they weren't that much worse. but in this instance it doesn't make any sense to include the losses from this season. the two are being compared as if they are separate entities
This post was edited on 11/22/08 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 11/22/08 at 7:26 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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you are totally missing the point. i said that this was the worst LSU team in at least the past 5 years and he responded by saying that LSU has averaged 2.5 losses per year in that time period so they weren't that much worse. but in this instance it doesn't make any sense to include the losses from this season. the two are being compared as if they are separate entities
Aha. I see your point. Sorry for not paying more attention.
Posted on 11/22/08 at 7:32 pm to Crimsonpanther13
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Aha. I see your point. Sorry for not paying more attention.
it's no problem. i like some of you bama fans, i just get annoyed at the ones that are huge homers like most of the LSU fans that post on the rant
Posted on 11/22/08 at 8:58 pm to TulaneTigerFan
I'll admit that the SEC is down as a whole this year but you can't overlook what we have accomplished so far. Some people keep saying that we're only #1 and undefeated because teams like LSU, AU, and UT are down. We have played some tough competition (mostly on the road) and it is very hard to win in this conference week in and week out.
Ark is down from last year but it's always tough to win on the road and the same goes for UT and LSU as well.
We have beaten 5 bowl teams (Clemson, UGA, UK, OM, and LSU) so far. 3 of those were away from home. IF we beat UF, that will make 6 so I wouldn't say that we've had an easy road as some are saying.
Ark is down from last year but it's always tough to win on the road and the same goes for UT and LSU as well.
We have beaten 5 bowl teams (Clemson, UGA, UK, OM, and LSU) so far. 3 of those were away from home. IF we beat UF, that will make 6 so I wouldn't say that we've had an easy road as some are saying.
Posted on 11/22/08 at 9:11 pm to rolltide1283
In all honesty Bama really only has one really solid win - UGA. Ole Miss is not bad, but they are certainly not a top tier team, esp when Bama played them. LSU is not very good this year. We know about Clemson. UK is mediocre.
Bama's strength of schedule is rated 94 in the NCAA. That is a very weak schedule anyway you look at it and Bama has not beaten anyone currently in the top ten and after LSU losing today, Bama will have only played 1 team in the top 25. That is really bad.
We will see whether Bama is a really good team when they play UF and then in their bowl game. I personally think UF will beat Bama by about 14 or so and I think Bama will get matched against a supperior team in their bowl game as they will still be ranked higher than they should and will be taken by the sugar bowl over UGA and I think they will lose.
Oh yeah, I am not counting AU out either.
Bama's strength of schedule is rated 94 in the NCAA. That is a very weak schedule anyway you look at it and Bama has not beaten anyone currently in the top ten and after LSU losing today, Bama will have only played 1 team in the top 25. That is really bad.
We will see whether Bama is a really good team when they play UF and then in their bowl game. I personally think UF will beat Bama by about 14 or so and I think Bama will get matched against a supperior team in their bowl game as they will still be ranked higher than they should and will be taken by the sugar bowl over UGA and I think they will lose.
Oh yeah, I am not counting AU out either.
This post was edited on 11/22/08 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 11/22/08 at 9:16 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Well I don't really care what our strength of schedule is because at the end of the day, we're undefeated and #1. I know our schedule doesn't look nearly as tough now but all that matters is that we've won EVERY game we've played so far.
No matter what happens from here on out, this has been a great season. If we beat y'all next week, we'll go to a BCS bowl which is amazing seeing as how we were in Shreveport last year.
No matter what happens from here on out, this has been a great season. If we beat y'all next week, we'll go to a BCS bowl which is amazing seeing as how we were in Shreveport last year.
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