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re: Chubbs vs Fournette
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:19 am to RB10
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:19 am to RB10
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How dumb are you?
I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of UGA fans saying Gurley is better than Gordon based on anything other than his potential going forward.
Nothing, other than that, says he was better in 2013 or 2014
And what I am saying dumbass is that Chubb IS the better back. You can have all of the maybe's, one days, if's, and's, and but's. Chubb has outproduced LF by a long arse shot. Not even close. LF has had a decent season endcapped by two great games and a bullshite Heisman pose.
Give me the choice of Mila Kunis and a chick that is supposed to be hot one day you can bet your sweet arse I'm banging Mila. You can keep the chick who has "potential".
This post was edited on 8/19/15 at 9:21 am
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:19 am to RB10
Gurley didn't play the entire season. LF and Chubb did.
Chubb was better.
Gurley missing most of the season because of injury is a legitimate excuse as to why he didn't have stats. Unlike the LF apologists (LSU homers) making excuses that he didn't have access to good HS coaches, his O-line wasn't as good, defenses stacked the box, Miles didn't give him the ball enough, he had to split carries, etc. etc. etc.
Chubb was better.
Gurley missing most of the season because of injury is a legitimate excuse as to why he didn't have stats. Unlike the LF apologists (LSU homers) making excuses that he didn't have access to good HS coaches, his O-line wasn't as good, defenses stacked the box, Miles didn't give him the ball enough, he had to split carries, etc. etc. etc.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:22 am to WorkinDawg
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If you compare the LF/ NC deal to TG3/ MG you have in fact compared the two- when they couldn't be further apart. Todd Gurley was WAY beyond potential. You realize he only played in 5-6 games last year, right?
Just because you don't grasp the fact that the situations are almost identical in regards to the argument that comes up between UGA and LSU fans every time this thread is created is not my problem.
When it comes to Gurley vs. Gordon you guys use Gurley's potential to make the case that he's the better back. When it comes to Chubb vs. Fournette, using anything other than stats is laughable to most of you.
It's hypocritical.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:26 am to dbeck
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Gurley didn't play the entire season. LF and Chubb did.
So?
Gordon had a higher YPC and TD per carry than Gurley in 2014.
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Chubb was better.
I've never once said different.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:34 am to bofadeez_dawg
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And what I am saying dumbass is that Chubb IS the better back. You can have all of the maybe's, one days, if's, and's, and but's. Chubb has outproduced LF by a long arse shot.
So, based on this sentiment you should also agree that Gordon is the better back, by a long arse shot.
Gordon's YPC was better by 1.4 yards over the course of their careers. Both averaged a TD every 14 touches.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:34 am to RB10
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When it comes to Gurley vs. Gordon you guys use Gurley's potential to make the case that he's the better back. When it comes to Chubb vs. Fournette, using anything other than stats is laughable to most of you.
It's hypocritical.
No it's not hypocritical. It's a poor example. Todd Gurley has actually demonstrated a unique skill set vs. the highest level of competition available to him. MG played against weak arse competition. I might have taken MG because of TG3's injury, but TG3 was a more proven commodity and less risky than MG (sands injury)
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:35 am to RB10
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When it comes to Gurley vs. Gordon you guys use Gurley's potential to make the case that he's the better back.
No, not really potential, just better. Gurley, when healthy, was widely and almost unanimously considered the best back in football. He was considered the best rb to enter the draft since McFadden or Adrian Peterson. That's not based on potential, that's based on 3 seasons of tape.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:35 am to WorkinDawg
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Todd Gurley has actually demonstrated a unique skill set vs. the highest level of competition available to him. MG played against weak arse competition.
Yet another argument UGA fans love to laugh at then LSU fans use it for Fournette.
You guys just continue to prove my point.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:38 am to gatorhata9
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No, not really potential, just better. Gurley, when healthy, was widely and almost unanimously considered the best back in football.
I agree that he was the most talented back, by a slight margin. However, that wasn't based on production because Gordon outstripped him by a wide margin. So what would you say it was based on?
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:38 am to gatorhata9
There are other factors NFL teams have to consider when drafting RBs also. Ability to pass protect is a must for most NFL teams. Depending on the offense, route running and catching is also a priority.
This post was edited on 8/19/15 at 9:56 am
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:47 am to RB10
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Yet another argument UGA fans love to laugh at then LSU fans use it for Fournette.
You guys just continue to prove my point.
Like a liberal and global warming...everything "proves your point" in your mind.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:47 am to RB10
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Todd Gurley has actually demonstrated a unique skill set vs. the highest level of competition available to him. MG played against weak arse competition.
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Yet another argument UGA fans love to laugh at then LSU fans use it for Fournette.
What unique skill set has Fournette shown, exactly?
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:52 am to RB10
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However, that wasn't based on production because Gordon outstripped him by a wide margin.
Because Todd missed large portions of the 2013 and 2014 seasons.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:57 am to WorkinDawg
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Like a liberal and global warming...everything "proves your point" in your mind.
Me pointing out the UGA fans use the SAME EXACT arguments for Gurley as LSU fans do for Fournette really rustles your jimmies.
It's ok. I'd be mad if it had been shown I was a hypocrite too.
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Because Todd missed large portions of the 2013 and 2014 seasons.
True. This does affect the total rushing yards and TDs.
It doesn't affect YPC which favors Gordon in 2014 and overall, or TDs per carry which favors Gordon in 2014 and they are neck and neck overall.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:58 am to RB10
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No, not really potential, just better. Gurley, when healthy, was widely and almost unanimously considered the best back in football.
I agree that he was the most talented back, by a slight margin. However, that wasn't based on production because Gordon outstripped him by a wide margin. So what would you say it was based on?
Check out the September (1st 5 games) stats from last year. They were neck and neck until gurley was forced off the field, so your point isnt as strong as you think it is.
This post was edited on 8/19/15 at 10:07 am
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:07 am to djsdawg
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Check out the September stats from last year. They were neck and neck until gurley was forced off the field, so your point isnt as strong as you think it is.
My point that UGA fans are hypocritical when it comes to these two arguments is as strong as ever.
This post was edited on 8/19/15 at 10:08 am
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:15 am to RB10
I really don't think we're being hypocritical. Gurley wasn't drafted because of his potential. He was drafted 10th because he's an incredible running back.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:20 am to gatorhata9
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I really don't think we're being hypocritical. Gurley wasn't drafted because of his potential. He was drafted 10th because he's an incredible running back.
I agree, and I know that most UGA fans, and many of us will agree, believe that he was the best in the country in 2013 and 2014. However, you can't claim that unless you are basing it on potential.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:22 am to RB10
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Check out the September stats from last year. They were neck and neck until gurley was forced off the field, so your point isnt as strong as you think it is.
My point that UGA fans are hypocritical when it comes to these two arguments is as strong as ever.
My point was that their stats were neck and neck unlike chubb and LF, thus the idea isn't close to as hypocritical. Stats supported the idea much better than you seem to be willing to admit.
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