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Posted on 6/3/16 at 1:16 pm to r2d2
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Except that Jordan Jefferson was suspended from the team the day after his arrest
Which was during fall camp if I recall correctly, not in May. The timing of his arrest required near immediate action.
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was not re-instated until the charge was reduced to a misdemeanor
So if Saban suspended Cam indefinitely (from what, really?) today, but reinstated him on, say, July 15 if it was reduced to misdemeanor you'd be better with all this?
Come on now. We all know your faux rage is really about a desire to see a division foe weakened to better increase your chances of winning and ending a 5 game losing streak, while receiving the added benefit of pointing and laughing at 2 local kids who left the state so you can say "this is why you don't go to college out of state".
Posted on 6/3/16 at 1:31 pm to bamasgot13
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Which was during fall camp if I recall correctly, not in May. The timing of his arrest required near immediate action.
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No dumbass, it was the last day of spring practice. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. He was suspended immediately, spent the entire summer suspended, and a month and a half into the season. The court finally got around to it in late september, at which point a grand jury practically laughed the DA out of the room and the charge was reduced to what it should have been all along, a misdemeanor. He was reinstated the next day, with Les commenting that his suspension was above and beyond what someone should have gotten for misdemeanor assault.
Again, spend two seconds on google before you talk out of your arse.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 1:36 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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Jordan Jefferson faced first degree felony assault charges for almost 6 months
Jefferson was arrested in late August 2011 on felony assault
Jefferson's charges were reduced in late September and he was reinstated....where is this 6 month timeframe you were talking about
Also, did we pick apart these Les Miles comments during that time?
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"It's certainly a tough time for our team," Miles said. "They see a teammate in peril and ... there was some real emotion on that field. They really put it behind them and focused for the two hours-plus we practiced. I was proud of them today, because they were sick.
Teammate in peril? Like HE was the victim? Oh my goodness. Last week we heard about Saban trying to make Cam & Hootie into victims, but he never said, "This is a tough time for our team. The see teammates in peril". That would have been a field day on tRant.
Then this from your AD:
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We certainly don't condone participation in the incident, but the legal system has determined that their actions did not rise to the level originally charged, and their punishment to date related to football has already been considerable
Very appropriate quote. And IF the legal system determines that Cam & Hootie's actions do not rise to the level originally charged, I'm sure LSU fans will take the same thoughtful approach as they did when it was their own team.
IF the legal system feels their actions DID rise to the level originally charge, I will want both off of the Alabama Football team. I'm just not ready to boot them (pun intended) until the legal system runs its course.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 1:43 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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No dumbass, it was the last day of spring practice
Nope. The fight took place on August 19th. They were arrested a week later. August. During fall practice. Not spring practice.
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You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about
You were saying?
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Again, spend two seconds on google before you talk out of your arse.
Feel free to follow your advice next time. I'll save you the trouble today though:
Fight takes place on August 19th and the authorities search Jefferson's apartment
Jefferson arrested a week later - in August
Jordan Jefferson's charges reduced in September (which is the next month after August) and he was reinstated to the team
Try this
Posted on 6/3/16 at 1:45 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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TheDrunkenTigah
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Member since Aug 2011
Very first post ever is about Jordan Jefferson getting snaps after returning from suspension
Posted on 6/3/16 at 1:48 pm to bamasgot13
Ok, I obviously confused the timeline with Mills, but it doesn't change the fact that the legal system definitely didn't give Jefferson preferential treatment because he was a football player, and he was still suspended immediately even though he had only been arrested. He was the starting QB, and missed four full games because the DA wanted to show he WASN'T giving LSU players breaks.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 1:52 pm to bamasgot13
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Nope. The fight took place on August 19th. They were arrested a week later. August. During fall practice. Not spring practice.
I have no problem admitting I got that wrong, it doesn't change anything else. Jordan Jefferson is a great example of what happens when the legal system goes out of it's way to prove it's not showing anyone special treatment. The situations between he and Cam Robinson couldn't be any more different.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 1:54 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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Ok, I obviously confused the timeline with Mills
No. You were obviously wrong after you spent several posts speaking in absolutes, calling me a "dumb arse", telling me to stop "talking out of my arse", telling me I didn't know what I was talking about, and challenging me to spend "2 seconds on google" before I post.
Turns out, you were the dumb arse, you didn't know what you were talking about, you were talking out of your arse, and you didn't use your own advice and check with google before you posted.
I'm sure I'll be cool with you being man enough to admit you were wrong and I was right.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 1:57 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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The situations between he and Cam Robinson couldn't be any more different.
How so? Both were arrested in Louisiana. Both at time of arrest were charged with felonies. One had his charges reduced a little over a month later, and one hasn't gone through the process yet.
Up to this point, the situations are similar in how the legal system is working. The difference is in how their coaches choose to handle the situation. Les, as it was ONE WEEK before kickoff, had to make a choice. Saban, as it is THREE MONTHS before kick off and Cam & Hootie's hearing will be before kickoff, has the luxury of allowing things to play out before he has to act. That luxury is what pisses you off.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 1:58 pm to bamasgot13
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I'm sure I'll be cool with you being man enough to admit you were wrong and I was right.
Catching me on one detail doesn't make you any less of a dumbass. The links you provided even prove that the punishment wasn't in Miles's hands, it was in the DAs. Jordan Jefferson's name is only in this thread because you insisted the legal system went light on him because he was LSU's starting QB, and the facts of the situation totally blow that assertion out of the water. You're grasping at straws to make this about people picking on Bama players, and that a coach not suspending someone charged with a felony is normal, when it's anything but.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 2:00 pm to UAtide11
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UAtide11
That's kind of creepy man. How long did it take you to scroll through all my posts?
Posted on 6/3/16 at 2:01 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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The situations between he and Cam Robinson couldn't be any more different.
The ONLY difference is you wanted the one with the yellow shirt acquitted and want the one in the red shirt in prison.
No agenda at all...
Posted on 6/3/16 at 2:04 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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TheDrunkenTigah
Dude go home. You just got fricking owned.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 2:04 pm to Evolved Simian
Tons of people wanted Jordan Jefferson to face jailtime, and not be reinstated. If you'll remember, he wasn't the most liked player. I personally thought the offense was better with Lee, but after talking to some friends who were at the bar that night, I knew it was all a show for the DA to say he's not playing favorites. I also said about half a dozen times in this thread and others that Cam and Hootie will get off easy because they are first time offenders, and I'm fine with that because it's what would happen to most people in their shoes.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 2:05 pm to Evolved Simian
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The ONLY difference is you wanted the one with the yellow shirt acquitted and want the one in the red shirt in prison.
No agenda at all...
There is one MAJOR difference in that they couldn't prove shite about anything that was being said about Jefferson. Well, that and BRPD's grandstanding throughout. The C-Rob incident is a bit more cut and dry. Dem baws got busted in a park at 2am with weed and a stolen handgun. They both most definitely attend the same MENSA meeting as Jefferson.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 2:09 pm to TideSaint
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Dude go home. You just got fricking owned.
I think I'll stay. Deflecting an entire bullshite assertion over one detail, one that doesn't even matter, is not what I would call "owning" someone.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 2:09 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
Why u so upset, Tho
Posted on 6/3/16 at 2:15 pm to Herman Frisco
I'm cool as a cucumber Herm, arguing with bama fans over legal proceedings is becoming my new after lunch Friday ritual. Really gets the weekend kicked off.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 2:19 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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That's kind of creepy man. How long did it take you to scroll through all my posts?
LOL, you think I went through 11,000 of your horrible posts.
You can manipulate the address bar to go to the first post. I had a hunch you joined to talk about JJ, I was right.
And TideSaint is right, you got straight up owned.
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