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re: Cam Newton--sorry Moo State
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:27 pm to Deuce3702
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:27 pm to Deuce3702
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You know it's bad mechanics. That's taught by coaches at the middle school level.
Brodie Croyle did the same thing and couldn't complete a deep ball to a player not named Tyrone Prothro.
It's called arm strength. When QB has it, he doesnt have to step up as often or as much. Brodie had a noodle arm compared to Cam.
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:31 pm to parkjas2001
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It's called arm strength. When QB has it, he doesnt have to step up as often or as much. Brodie had a noodle arm compared to Cam.
Completely false. Brodie's problem was that he often overthrew the receiver. Also, NFL scouts disagree with you about Brodie's arm strength.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:32 pm to Deuce3702
They dont disagree with the fact that arm strentgh allows a qb like Cam to not have to step into throws as much as qb's with noodle arms.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:34 pm to parkjas2001
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They dont disagree with the fact that arm strentgh allows a qb like Cam to not have to step into throws as much as qb's with noodle arms.
False, show me one successful QB that throws off his back foot. Or provide a link to somewhere that statement has been made.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:36 pm to Deuce3702
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Deuce3702
his scout profile disagrees with your "professional" assessment
A player without top-flight arm strength or measurables who nonetheless is an effective leader of an offense. Particularly effective in the short or intermediate game. Has trouble stretching the field, and needs to have a faster release.
linky
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:36 pm to Deuce3702
It is amazing how little you know about throwing a football to think that you have to step forward everytime.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:37 pm to parkjas2001
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It is amazing how little you know about throwing a football to think that you have to step forward everytime.
Not everytime, but how about ever? Because I haven't seen a highlight of him doing it yet.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:38 pm to Deuce3702
turn it to espn on thursday around 730.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:47 pm to parkjas2001
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It is amazing how little you know about throwing a football to think that you have to step forward everytime.
Maybe what he's saying it's not "fundamentally" the correct way to throw the football.
My 11 yr old is playing QB for his peewee team. His coach just happens to be a former Auburn QB who was very good during is AU days. Anyway, he's trying to teach the little QB's the fundamentals of the position - and trying to teach them "not" to throw off their backfoot. As it can make them unbalanced and less powerful when throwing....
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:47 pm to fontell
did Auburn have an "Orange Out" for Arky State?
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:49 pm to RT1941
With all due respect, yes, that is how you teach someone to throw a ball. If your son develops a cannon the likes of Stafford or Newton or Russell, he wont have to. He willbe able to still make all the throws flat footed or off his back foot.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:49 pm to chinese58
NO, Au always wears orange unless specified...Clemson game is a Blue game.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:54 pm to Deuce3702
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Especially considering his mechanical flaws in his throws.
I say this very lightly trying not to draw any parallels between the two. But didn't tebow have some mechanical flaws in his throws. Point being no one is perfect...you can nit pick and find a way to rain on the guy, and I can say look at the numbers...back to futility.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:55 pm to parkjas2001
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He willbe able to still make all the throws flat footed or off his back foot.
And he will be less accurate doing it.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:55 pm to parkjas2001
So will it be officially a "Blue-Out" like we did against Tenn a couple of years ago?
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:56 pm to MsGarrison
yes
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:57 pm to parkjas2001
Cool! Ill be there make sure I get me a blue shirt
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:58 pm to parkjas2001
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With all due respect, yes, that is how you teach someone to throw a ball.quote:
If your son develops a cannon the likes of Stafford or Newton or Russell, he wont have to. He willbe able to still make all the throws flat footed or off his back foot.
Yeah, well I've got my doubts about my son's future football ability. He loves the game of football - but he loves hunting and fishing a whole lot more.
I will say that as an Alabama alumni and huge Bama supporter - I have tremendous appreciation for our coach, even if he did play at Auburn.
He's tough as hell on those boys, and never lets up on them, but he makes sure they're having fun & learning the game as well. They all hate him by the end of a week of hard practices - then he'll have the pizza truck show up after practice on the last day of the week and all is forgiven.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:59 pm to MsGarrison
I thought he made some great runs and some pretty accurate throws, but that the "wow" factor has to be tempered due to the level of competition. (Of course the same thing can be said of Alabama's performance against San Jose State.)
I'm just surprised he was still out there in the fourth quarter, running the ball and taking hits. Seems like a needless risk to me.
I'm just surprised he was still out there in the fourth quarter, running the ball and taking hits. Seems like a needless risk to me.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 5:00 pm to piggidyphish
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I say this very lightly trying not to draw any parallels between the two. But didn't tebow have some mechanical flaws in his throws. Point being no one is perfect...you can nit pick and find a way to rain on the guy, and I can say look at the numbers...back to futility.
Tebow had major flaws in his throwing motion (Cam's is that he is essentially off-balance every time he throws the ball). Tebow's problem was how low he held the ball. Yes you can work through it, but you saw how they tried to completely reteach Tebow how to throw a football.
Cam's throwing motion isn't the problem and neither is his arm strength. And yes like parkjas has said, arm strength will usually cover up throwing off your back foot, but not always. Deeper passes are going to be less accurate and while it may not matter against Arkansas State, it will hurt you against a good passing defense.
This post was edited on 9/7/10 at 5:02 pm
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