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re: Brian Schottenheimer and a Question at QB for UGA

Posted on 7/26/15 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/26/15 at 12:10 pm to
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by Porter Osborne Jr
He gave us our worst D EVER with NFL talent and you think he did better than most UGA fans think? Shhheeeeooott.




Yep. Some Uga fans wanted a scape goat for 2013 and they chose grantham. You act like the other years didn't happen, and you ignore factors that led to our 2013 d struggles.
This post was edited on 7/26/15 at 12:11 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 7/26/15 at 12:10 pm to
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Grantham was better than many Uga fans claim.


How so? He produced statistically THE WORST DEFENSE IN SCHOOL HISTORY. That's not opinion or conjecture, it's a fact. THE...WORST.

Grantham is the reason we lost the 2012 SECCG and missed out on a national title. The only reason his defenses looked good for a brief time is because we were absolutely loaded with talent. When sanders commings got to the NFL, he said that the playbook at UGA was twice as big as his one with the chiefs. Grantham didn't realize 19 year olds shouldn't have to be able to (and literally couldn't) devote as much time to learning things that NFL players do. He was a pompous self righteous turd.

Although, I will always have a soft spot for him for the choke signal and almost fighting franklin. I loved that.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/26/15 at 12:14 pm to
Trying to compare sec 2013 to sec of just ten years ago, much less 20 or more, is silly. Relative to our competiton, the 2013 d was not the worst.

Trying to lay all of the blame in that game on one side of the ball is as well.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 7/26/15 at 12:22 pm to
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Trying to compare sec 2013 to sec of just ten years ago, much less 20 or more, is silly.


Please show me where I did that. I'll spare you some time...I didn't do that. Grantham's defenses don't have a damn thing to do with the SEC of 20 years ago...I'm not even sure where you pulled that from?

quote:

Relative to our competiton, the 2013 d was not the worst.


Read. Please.

I never mentioned our competition. I mentioned us. UGA. It was the worst D in school history.

quote:

Trying to lay all of the blame in that game on one side of the ball is as well.




we averaged 37 points a game. In the 5 games we lost, we scored 35, 26, 27, 38, and 19 points. That's an average of 29 points. If you're scoring 29 points a game in your losses, the offense isn't the problem.

As a comparison, BVG gave up 30 points ONCE in 4 years. Grantham gave up 8 in 2013 alone.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/26/15 at 12:33 pm to
When you mention history as you did, you are comparing recent to distant past, which includes 10-20-30 years ago.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26184 posts
Posted on 7/26/15 at 12:36 pm to
Would you rather have Pruitt or Grantham right now?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/26/15 at 1:01 pm to
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by gatorhata9
Would you rather have Pruitt or Grantham right now?




Pruitt easily.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/26/15 at 1:07 pm to
All I needed to know
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
42061 posts
Posted on 7/26/15 at 1:42 pm to
What? Your post is saying two different things.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38141 posts
Posted on 7/26/15 at 1:49 pm to
It is? Explain.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
42061 posts
Posted on 7/26/15 at 2:01 pm to
You said yup like you agreed with me and then said I ignored the other factors for that season.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38141 posts
Posted on 7/26/15 at 2:15 pm to
I answered the question you asked.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
42061 posts
Posted on 7/26/15 at 2:26 pm to
Gotcha.

Now, can you tell me what factors I am missing about 2013?
Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/26/15 at 2:36 pm to
So after reading the first 3 pages, I gathered that Schotty went from NFL OC to College semi-OC with the HC being the real OC.

That's a hell of a fall.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
42061 posts
Posted on 7/26/15 at 2:41 pm to
Everyone makes choices. I'm sure he could have found a job in the NFL but chose to remain a coordinator.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38141 posts
Posted on 7/26/15 at 2:42 pm to
1. Lacked experience.
2. Faced great passing qbs.
3. Got screwed by the targeting rule.
4. Got screwed by one of the luckiest plays of all time.
5. Got screwed by an awful punter/snapper situation.
6. Got screwed by some very odd punt team penalties.
7. O fell apart in October.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88618 posts
Posted on 7/26/15 at 2:43 pm to
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with the HC being the real OC.


richt hasn't called plays since mid-november of 2006.

So, you've read wrong.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38141 posts
Posted on 7/26/15 at 2:46 pm to
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So after reading the first 3 pages, I gathered that Schotty went from NFL OC to College semi-OC with the HC being the real OC.



1. Being the oc of the Rams was a no win situation. Uga offers a better opp for advancement.

2. Richt is not the real oc.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38141 posts
Posted on 7/26/15 at 2:57 pm to
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In the 5 games we lost, we scored 35, 26, 27, 38, and 19 points.


O scored 19 vs neb, 20 vandy with a costly to late, 26 vs mizzou with 2 costly to's and a failed 2 pt play, forgot to play the first 3 q's vs au, and failed to score a clutch td inside the clemson 5. So as you can see, It's fair to give the o some blame.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
42061 posts
Posted on 7/26/15 at 2:59 pm to
I'll have a better post tomorrow but right off hand, 3, 4 and 6 have very little to nothing at all to us having an overall shitty D.

As for facing great passing qbs, who gives a shite. So did the rest of the SEC.

And after a quick search it looked like we returned 5 starters on D.
This post was edited on 7/26/15 at 3:05 pm
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