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re: Brian Kelly can’t say that he loves beating Georgia.

Posted on 5/5/23 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by DrewDawg13
Athens
Member since Apr 2015
3896 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 1:26 pm to
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It does mean something.

It means this part is irrelevant:


No it really doesn't mean anything at all.


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You don't seem to understand that the majority of those players weren't there.

And actually no, LSU didn't have a "full roster" in 2022.

You seem to know very little about what happened.


No I know exactly what happened. It's the same thing that happens when any program gets a new coach.

How many of those players from the last two classes were gone, please explain in detail since you are implying no one from the recent recruiting classes stayed.

Also please tell me how LSU didn't have a full roster during season?


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He's one of the winningest CFB coaches out there and now he's at an elite program.

The more you talk, the dumber you seem.



So he has won a bunch of games playing bad competition?? Wow, now winning games is all that matters according to LSU fans. I guess championships don't mean anything since Kelly can't ever win one.

So LSU is more elite than ND?? Lol, and yet you have the audacity to call someone else dumb.
This post was edited on 5/5/23 at 1:27 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66146 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 1:35 pm to
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No it really doesn't mean anything at all.





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No I know exactly what happened. It's the same thing that happens when any program gets a new coach



Name another program that had 39 players remaining when the new coach was hired.

You can't because it's never happened.



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How many of those players were gone, please explain in detail since you are implying no one from the recent recruiting classes stayed.



Now you're building a strawman argument.

I never said "no one" stayed, I said the majority didn't.

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Wow, now winning games is all that matters according to LSU fans. I guess championships don't mean anything since Kelly can't ever win one.


Well he's only been at LSU one season. We can revisit 5 years in.

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So LSU is more elite than ND?? Lol, and yet you have the audacity to call someone else dumb.


Um yes.

LSU is absolutely a "more elite" football program in the 2020's.

Serious question, do you live under a rock?
Posted by FightingTigers138
In your thoughts
Member since Dec 2016
5919 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 1:41 pm to
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Well my team is back to back national champs. And has a good chance to making it three in a row. I’m beating my chest over that. Not beating a four loss LSU team.


LSU 24/7 in your head.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9362 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 1:42 pm to
So, what are you implying about Coach O here?
Posted by DrewDawg13
Athens
Member since Apr 2015
3896 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 2:26 pm to
Laughing emojis because you can't structure a real sentence. I would expect nothing less from LSU.


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Now you're building a strawman argument.

I never said "no one" stayed, I said the majority didn't.


So tell me what players left from those two recruiting classes??


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Well he's only been at LSU one season. We can revisit 5 years in.



Ok, I will bet you anything you like that in 5 years Kirby will still have more championships than Kelly.


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Um yes.

LSU is absolutely a "more elite" football program in the 2020's.

Serious question, do you live under a rock?



Lol what?? LSU is more elite in the 2020's? But according to you, LSU was terrible the two years before Kelly came, so how can you be elite and terrible all at the same time?

Holy shite you make it way too easy.



Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66146 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 3:02 pm to
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Laughing emojis because you can't structure a real sentence. I would expect nothing less from LSU.


Meh, I'm laughing because you're making asinine statement after asinine statement.

The sad part is you actually believe what you're saying.



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So tell me what players left from those two recruiting classes??



A "full roster" is 85 players, Kelly had 39 when he took over.

Surely you can do that math.

The players that left included TJ Finley, Eli Ricks, Arik Gilbert, Koy Moore, Max Johnson, Corey Kiner, among others.

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Ok, I will bet you anything you like that in 5 years Kirby will still have more championships than Kelly.



That's pretty likely. Kirby had a 6 year head start on building his program.

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Lol what?? LSU is more elite in the 2020's? But according to you, LSU was terrible the two years before Kelly came, so how can you be elite and terrible all at the same time?

Holy shite you make it way too easy.


LSU has better facilities, more resources, and a better recruiting base from which to draw than Notre Dame.

They also have more recent success, Notre Dame hasn't won a major bowl game in 30 years.

Are you actually this dense?
Posted by DrewDawg13
Athens
Member since Apr 2015
3896 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 3:19 pm to
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Meh, I'm laughing because you're making asinine statement after asinine statement.

The sad part is you actually believe what you're saying.


More laughing emojis because you have no comeback.

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A "full roster" is 85 players, Kelly had 39 when he took over.

Surely you can do that math.

The players that left included TJ Finley, Eli Ricks, Arik Gilbert, Koy Moore, Max Johnson, Corey Kiner, among others.


Once again moving the goalposts. What players from this two recruiting classes did he have??

And again, he did not have 39 players when the football season started. Please stop with the blatant lies.


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That's pretty likely. Kirby had a 6 year head start on building his program.



Keep moving those goalposts.


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LSU has better facilities, more resources, and a better recruiting base from which to draw than Notre Dame.

They also have more recent success, Notre Dame hasn't won a major bowl game in 30 years.

Are you actually this dense?


You claimed the 2020's LSU was more elite, now you're saying the last 30 years, which is it??


Also is LSU elite, or did Kelly walk into a terrible roster? Can't have it both ways.

Why only do the last thirty years?? ND is far more elite than LSU all time, so why do an arbitrary number? Unless it just so happens to for your narrative.

You calling someone dense is the definition of irony.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66146 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 3:33 pm to
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Once again moving the goalposts. What players from this two recruiting classes did he have??


Actually, you're the one who changed your question.

Your original question:
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So tell me what players left from those two recruiting classes??


I listed several players who left so you changed the question.

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And again, he did not have 39 players when the football season started. Please stop with the blatant lies.



Again, the mistake seems to be on your end.

I never said he had 39 players when the season started.

My response:

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A "full roster" is 85 players, Kelly had 39 when he took over


You seem to be misunderstanding things on your end and blaming me when you can't comprehend a statement.

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You claimed the 2020's LSU was more elite, now you're saying the last 30 years, which is it??

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Why only do the last thirty years?? ND is far more elite than LSU all time, so why do an arbitrary number? Unless it just so happens to for your narrative.


We can use any timeline you want, Notre Dame hasn't won a major bowl game in 30 years though.

History within a recruit's lifetime is undoubtedly more impactful and Notre Dame hasn't really done much in the life of the average recruit or even in their parent's memory.

That's simply a fact and not really up for debate.
Posted by That LSU Guy
PVB
Member since Jul 2008
14925 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 3:40 pm to
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Blownout
is what the players at FSU did to Jimbo's wife.
Posted by DrewDawg13
Athens
Member since Apr 2015
3896 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 6:04 pm to
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I listed several players who left so you changed the question.


Keep changing those goalposts.


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Again, the mistake seems to be on your end.

I never said he had 39 players when the season started.

My response:


You seem to be misunderstanding things on your end and blaming me when you can't comprehend a statement.


Nope, just proving the blatant lie of Kelly only having 39 players for the season.


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We can use any timeline you want, Notre Dame hasn't won a major bowl game in 30 years though.

History within a recruit's lifetime is undoubtedly more impactful and Notre Dame hasn't really done much in the life of the average recruit or even in their parent's memory.

That's simply a fact and not really up for debate.


So all time, ND is much more elite than LSU and it's not even close.


For recruits UGA is more elite than LSU and it's not even close.

So if Notre Dame is not elite, than Kelly is not elite either according to you.

Glad I could clear this up for you.
This post was edited on 5/5/23 at 6:05 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61343 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 8:47 pm to
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My statement was that the team had 39 scholarship players when he was hired.


Ok. And he had a draft class and took on 15 transfers and a complete draft class, so what difference does that make? I mean in 10 years, if Kelly is still there y'all will be telling everybody that he had 39 scholarship players when he took the team over.

Add in 15 experienced transfer players now. Then a complete draft class. I mean you had three freshmen start, so the class was apparently pretty good.
And before you say starting 3 true freshmen start shows the lack of depth we saw 6 or 7 true freshmen get significant playing time with several of those starting.

You need to go out and get some fresh material. LSU did not do anything that a lot of other teams didn't do.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66146 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 9:17 pm to
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Nope, just proving the blatant lie of Kelly only having 39 players for the season.




No one ever said this.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66146 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 9:20 pm to
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You need to go out and get some fresh material. LSU did not do anything that a lot of other teams didn't do.


I mean that's 100% false.

Name another team that had to replace over half of their roster in one offseason.

Name another team that played with 70 scholarship players last year.

I'm not sure why Georgia fans are trying to make arguments they know nothing about.


Posted by DrewDawg13
Athens
Member since Apr 2015
3896 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 9:20 pm to
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No one ever said this.



Keep moving the goalposts, and ignoring all my other points
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39376 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 9:34 pm to
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Name another team that had to replace over half of their roster in one offseason.


LSU was 82nd in returning production for 2022, ahead of UGA, and that was before adding in a QB transfer with tons of experience, plus others.
This post was edited on 5/5/23 at 9:35 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66146 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:27 pm to
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Keep moving the goalposts, and ignoring all my other points


I've responded to literally everything you've said.

Your stance is that LSU didn't replace over half of their roster and that Notre Dame is a more elite program.

And that's fine.

It's a free country, you're allowed to be wrong.

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66146 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:32 pm to
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LSU was 82nd in returning production for 2022, ahead of UGA


The major difference is most of your depth had been developed within your program where most of LSU's was a hodge podge of pieces from around the country.
Posted by DrewDawg13
Athens
Member since Apr 2015
3896 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 11:15 pm to
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I've responded to literally everything you've said.


False


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Your stance is that LSU didn't replace over half of their roster and that Notre Dame is a more elite program.

And that's fine.

It's a free country, you're allowed to be wrong.


Also false, I understand you have been proven wrong so many times you don't even feel like trying. It makes sense
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66146 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 11:42 pm to
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Also false, I understand you have been proven wrong so many times you don't even feel like trying. It makes sense


Name one thing I've said that has been "proven wrong."



Posted by DrewDawg13
Athens
Member since Apr 2015
3896 posts
Posted on 5/6/23 at 12:00 am to
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Name one thing I've said that has been "proven wrong."


Lol keep moving the goalposts and dodging the questions.
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