re: Bateman and Barnett on their reason for transferring from bama

You have to be one of Saban's biggest apologist . I doubt you believe half the bullshite you spew, if you do I feel sorry for you. You have lost touch with society.

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No, we just love watching the Bama Fans defend the actions of Saban even when deep down some of them are indefensible. If only some would come out and just say "we don't give a shite, he wins". But the response by some on here is beyond hypocritical.

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I rest my case. Saban is human and he makes mistakes, however, most rational people can agree that he is a damn good coach and most who have played for him love the guy.

I remember his first year at Bama, when they played LSU, after the game lots of the LSU players came by and embraced the guy. Also, let's not forget, Saban has a side of the story as well. People can spin it any way that they want but fact of the matter is that they felt like Hurts gave Bama the best chance to be successful and win. Bateman and Barnett were given the chance to win the job but they did not. Saban's top priorities when it comes to his QB are 1)taking care of ball, 2)making good decisions and 3)WINNING OVER THE TEAM!!! Hurts did better than the rest of the guys.

Funny reading some of the posts here. It's almost as if some of you have access to the conversations between Saban and his players and insights into the locker room.

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"It's one of those things where I think the culture has changed a little bit," Saban said. "I think there's a certain pride people have in competition. There's certain things that I was taught growing up about not quitting and seeing things through. I think if I would have come home and told my dad that I was going to quit the team, I think he would have kicked me out of the house. I don't think I'd have a place to stay."

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I think the changing culture that Saban is referring to, is the fact that head FB coaches could say things like this 10 maybe 20 yrs ago, and people would just nod their heads along with it and say "you're right....you're right!".

Nowadays with the big salaries for head coaching jobs, and all the HCs shopping themsleves the day after bowl season is done, and hopping all over the nation looking for better jobs, the culture now is everyone knows how hypocritical what Saban is saying is, and just laugh at it.

His daddy didn't kick his arse out of the house after he quit on the Miami Dolphins. But to him that's OK, but for a kid doing the same thing, that's wrong? And the kid isn't doing it for a heap-ton of money too. It's just pure hypocrisy, is all it is.

The new culture is, players aren't going to let you get away with it...

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The culture he's talking about is how players today view themselves. Kids play AAU, Travel Ball, etc. If they don't like their role, they just leave and find another team. No one WORKS to change their role any more. They may work to improve their game, but I've seen too many times a kid just bail on a team b/c he either A) doesn't like his role, B) thinks he's better than the team, or C) thinks he will get more looks on a different team (more talent around him).

These kids grow up in this world where that happens often - team hopping - and they don't view it as "quitting". They view it as simply changing teams.

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Exactly what I said, and they learned this from.....the head coaches, coordinators, and asst. coaches that will jump ship in the blink of an eye if what they perceive as a better opportunity for them comes along. They don't like their role - ie. job title, or pay - "just leave and find another team".

The kids are doing exactly the same thing. They just can't get paid to do it. They'll still get their free education they were promised to begin with, but instead of better salary or title, the only thing they can shoot for is a better role.

It's the exact same thing. Only difference is, the coaches all frown on kids doing it, because it interferes with those same coaches positioning themselves for the better-paying jobs they want.

It's total bullshite and total hypocrisy, and the college players of this era are not giving as much of a shite as they used to, because they simply know better......

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Saban intentionally waited to the season was over in Miami to take the Alabama job, clown

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And that's no quitting, how?

Not to mention, Spurrier & RR turned job down

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Saban preaching about not quitting

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Saban is going into his 11 season at Bama. I'd say he's been pretty committed. He also played college football for one program in his playing days. Of course people move around over the course of a 50 year professional career, comparing that to a 3-4 year college experience is just stupid.

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Processing players will burn Bama eventually

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Yep, it's just killing us. Not sure where we will keep putting all of these trophies and #1 signing classes.

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Saban is going into his 11 season at Bama. I'd say he's been pretty committed.

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I guarantee you that if the Alabama job was struggling, if they weren't having as much success, then Saban would be out the door. What other CFB program out there is in better position than Alabama? If the Dolphins were playing in Super Bowls and paying him among the highest-paid NFL coaches when he was there, Saban would've never been y'all's head coach.....

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I guarantee you that if the Alabama job was struggling, if they weren't having as much success, then Saban would be out the door. What other CFB program out there is in better position than Alabama? If the Dolphins were playing in Super Bowls and paying him among the highest-paid NFL coaches when he was there, Saban would've never been y'all's head coach.....

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Duh. Anyone is going to find the best job opportunity during a professional career and take it. That's different than a 3-4 year commitment to a college sports team. Not hard to understand. Really, it's not.

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And that is hypocrisy at it's purest. At this stage of the player's life, his college playing career is as important to him as the coach's professional career is to him. The kid was a 5* prospect, and was told he should be a starting QB for a Power 5 Fb program, and lead it to great success, and move on to the NFL making millions.

And he's going to do this by how? Standing on the sidelines at Alabama praying for the guy ahead of him to get injured?? Pure hypocrisy......

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It's not hypocrisy. Nobody would blame Barnett for finishing the year and leaving. Nobody cared that Bateman and Cornwell finished the year and left. They didn't bail on their team mid-season. Barnett did, and that's where the issue is.

The proper comparison would be if Saban left LSU or the Dolphins 4 game into a season for a better coaching gig. That would be the same scenario that Barnett engaged in. Could you imagine the outcry? It would be brutal, and rightfully so. You don't quit midseason. Barnett was 1 play away from being the starter on a championship team. Heck, with the struggles passing Hurts had down the stretch, who's to say Barnett doesn't get another shot? He'll never know because he quit.