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Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:00 pm to auburnu008
Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:00 pm to auburnu008
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Isn't it funny that the only ones who are telling people to calm down and defending the shooter's case are Bama fans?
It's just as bad that you are trying to turn this into a Bama/Auburn fight. I assure you no Bama fan is happy that Auburn football players were killed. But you sure seem to revel in the possibility of finding a way to make this a Bama/Auburn issue.
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:01 pm to jso0003
quote:There is a whole list of things that can qualify a murder as capital murder. The one most likely in effect here is the murder of two or more persons in same act/course of conduct. However, the fight and potential for some kind of self defense claim may be enough to allow him to plead out of capital murder or get the charges amended to just murder.
Death penalty in AL is more geared towards if the victim is much younger or much older.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:02 pm to beatbammer
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If they want to recommend stepping back and letting the justice system do its work, I'm OK with that.
To your point, and in Nbama's defense, which he clearly doesn't need, he does this for a living. He's always fair about such points, and I assume he'd be even if he had the misfortune of representing a Tennessee fan.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:03 pm to Monticello
moticello have you no heart at all.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:03 pm to jso0003
That quote flew way the frick over your head.
Also, DP is based on age? Who knew? Guess the ARCrP were changed over the weekend.
Also, DP is based on age? Who knew? Guess the ARCrP were changed over the weekend.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:03 pm to Monticello
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It's just as bad that you are trying to turn this into a Bama/Auburn fight. I assure you no Bama fan is happy that Auburn football players were killed. But you sure seem to revel in the possibility of finding a way to make this a Bama/Auburn issue.
I just do not see the logic behind trying to justify or defend someone who just shot 6 people. I do not give a shite if the guys mother was beaten up. It does not justify shooting someone over it. Trying to make a case for someone like that is the farthest thing from my mind.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:04 pm to NBamaAlum
quote:Well, it can be, but your point is correct.
Also, DP is based on age?
Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:04 pm to beatbammer
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The only person I have a problem with in the latter part of this thread is the guy who has tried to make the case that Auburn football players were involved in the fight even though ZERO sources have stated or even rumored that (even the source he sites never said such a thing, its just that his reading comprehension is so poor that seems to be what he though it said).
Here is the direct quote from the Montgomery Advertiser from an eye-witness that has since been taken down:
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• The party was held at the pool, but was moved into the adjacent clubhouse because of rain. • He saw approximately 7 Auburn football players at the event — along with a few of their close friends. • He said the incident began when an unidentified football player made comments about the alleged gunman’s date for the party. The unidentified player didn’t back down when asked to do so. • The gunman was hit over the head with a pair of bottles.
There is a big gap in this report between where the Auburn player refuses to back down and where the gunnman is hit with a bottle. That gap is where the answers to all this will be found.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:05 pm to Bellabama
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To your point, and in Nbama's defense, which he clearly doesn't need, he does this for a living. He's always fair about such points, and I assume he'd be even if he had the misfortune of representing a Tennessee fan.
I didn't have a single problem with what NBamaAlum said. He's likely spot-on about this. No problem at all.
The only person I've had a problem with in the latter part of this thread is Monticello who seems to have concocted some goof theory, not substantiated so far in fact and not even rumored, that Auburn football players started the fight and hit the guy in the head with a bottle.
I suspect a flaw in his deductive reasoning. And, unlike you and NBama, I think there's a reason for that flaw when it comes to him.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:06 pm to REV-S
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moticello have you no heart at all.
Where on earth do you get this from? This is a tragic story and no one deserved to die that day. This gunman made a really stupid decision to bring a gun to a party and to fire into a crowd.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:06 pm to Monticello
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Monticello
I think you need to sign up to be the shooter's (ALLEGEDLY OF COURSE!) attorney.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:07 pm to Monticello
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There is a big gap in this report between where the Auburn player refuses to back down and where the gunnman is hit with a bottle.
Exactly.
That didn't stop you from conveniently filling that gap with "Auburn player hit the shooter in the head with a bottle" though, did it?
Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:07 pm to wdeinttown
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The NYT's Pete Thamel and Michael Schwirtz are catching a lot of flack over this article about the shooting.
Guess I don't get why the article is so inflammatory. The other stuff did happen and there's not a direct link to robbery and the point shaving, it does allude that there is a big problem down there. I'm surprised Cam Newton, Lowder, and Macgregor werent' mentioned too.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:08 pm to REV-S
quote:Emotionally charged threads like this make it harder to decipher noob trolls from simple noobs, but I am getting a bit of a troll vibe. I hope to God I am misunderstanding and you wouldn't troll this thread.
REV-S
Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:09 pm to beatbammer
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I suspect a flaw in his deductive reasoning. And, unlike you and NBama, I think there's a reason for that flaw when it comes to him.
So I am an evil Bama fan who hates Auburn so much that I wish literal death upon its players? And this is coming from the guy whose name is "beatbammer" If anyone is having trouble taking football out of this story it is you.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:10 pm to Monticello
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So I am an evil Bama fan who hates Auburn so much that I wish literal death upon its players?
You do have a faulty link in your deductive reasoning, don't you? This is the second time in the last four pages you have taken a leap of faith and been wrong.
You gonna try for three?
Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:11 pm to beatbammer
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Exactly.
That didn't stop you from conveniently filling that gap with "Auburn player hit the shooter in the head with a bottle" though, did it?
I never filled that gap at all. I said that getting hit by a bottle, in court, will matter a lot, regardless of who hit him, whether it was an Auburn player or not. As even the Auburn attorney in this thread has stated, just the fact that there was a fight will probably keep this from being a death penalty case. I never once said as an affirmative fact that an Auburn player hit him with a bottle.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:12 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
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Guess I don't get why the article is so inflammatory. The other stuff did happen and there's not a direct link to robbery and the point shaving, it does allude that there is a big problem down there. I'm surprised Cam Newton, Lowder, and Macgregor werent' mentioned too.
Duck.
There was no reason to talk about any of the point shaving or robbery stuff.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:13 pm to Monticello
Monticello you are a freaking idiot, rot in hell
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