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re: Auburn coaches are sickening

Posted on 1/26/11 at 7:41 am to
Posted by superman
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 7:41 am to
What's even more sickening is all the Auburn fans trying to rationalize it.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 7:41 am to
I am not rationalizing anything...i dont pray or belive in it.

I think it is funny how riled up it gets you that our coaches pray with our recruits in our stadium.
Posted by chadau79
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 7:43 am to
The coaches pray with the players before and after every practice and game. Maybe it was a habit to Trooper to pray before they left the field as they always do. How do we know that these recruits weren't at a bowl practice and they prayed with the team? I just find it amazing that you would call into question the faith of a person over a situation where you don't have all of the facts. How about you superman? How well do you know the Lord? Should we question your faith and motive over this thread, even though we don't know you?
Posted by Luke
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 8:13 am to
maybe you need Christ in your life?
Posted by superman
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 8:13 am to
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How well do you know the Lord?


Not as well as I should.

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Should we question your faith and motive over this thread, even though we don't know you?


If that's what you choose to do, then you are misunderstanding the point of this thread.

I do not have a problem with coaches praying with players. We pray with our high school team every single day that we are together.

This is different, because recruits are not a part of the team. They are not around the coaches every single day, and have not known the coaches - in most cases - for extended periods of time (2+ years)

At the very least, this is a recruiting violation for gameday simulations. At very worst - it's misusing the sacred act of prayer to impress a recruit or recruits.

Either way, it bothers me.
Posted by superman
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 8:14 am to
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maybe you need Christ in your life?


The more the better.

This thread has nothing to do with questioning faith in Christ. It has to do with misusing that faith to gain an advantage in recruiting.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 8:16 am to
I love it when Christinas they know the best way for ppl to use their faith...like there is a do and do not book out there.
Posted by Luke
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 8:17 am to
I tend to believe Christ wouldn't mind the AU players/Coaches/recruits praying in the least bit....
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 8:18 am to
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"Lawd, how did this pile o money get here in the middle of the AU logo?!?! Its a miracle!"
Posted by superman
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 8:18 am to
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I love it when Christinas they know the best way for ppl to use their faith...like there is a do and do not book out there.


Well there are several scripture references to misusing prayer and such.
Posted by superman
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 8:19 am to
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I tend to believe Christ wouldn't mind the AU players/Coaches/recruits praying in the least bit....


Of course not. However, He might mind just a little bit if Trooper was doing it not for the spiritual well-being of the recruits, but for his own advantage in recruiting. Don't you think?
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 8:20 am to
Which one says "thou shall not pray with recruits"?
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 8:22 am to
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He might mind just a little bit if Trooper was doing it not for the spiritual well-being of the recruits, but for his own advantage in recruiting. Don't you think?


How arrogant of you to think you know what your God wants or feels.

And do you know TT personally that you can make such an assumption as to his intentions when speaking to God?
Posted by superman
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 8:23 am to
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Which one says "thou shall not pray with recruits"?


It doesn't. What it does say, though, is that you should not pray just to be heard by men, and to not pray in order to impress people.
Posted by CapstoneGrad04
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 8:23 am to
Trooper is so refreshing.....will lead you in prayer one minute, then politely tell you to "go bust that mother f$@*er in the mouth"
Posted by Luke
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Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 8:24 am to
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Of course not. However, He might mind just a little bit if Trooper was doing it not for the spiritual well-being of the recruits, but for his own advantage in recruiting. Don't you think?


Which draws me to this question. Do you know his true intent? One should guard against raising misleading allegations against God and his children...
Posted by superman
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 8:24 am to
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How arrogant of you to think you know what your God wants or feels.


Scripture is pretty clear on the matter, IMO.
Posted by chadau79
Daphne, AL
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 8:25 am to
When was this said? Do you have video or quotes that Trooper said that?
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 8:26 am to
What a scholar.
Posted by superman
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 8:29 am to
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Which draws me to this question. Do you know his true intent?


No, but it's pretty easy to infer. Perhaps that's wrong of me, but I am having a hard time buying it - only because of the manner in which it was done. If he had taken Swain into his office and offered to prayed for him or his family - I wouldn't have started this thread.

quote:

One should guard against raising misleading allegations against God and his children


I have not raised any misleading allegation against God, and Scripture tells us very clearly that if a "brother in Christ" is doing something wrong, we are not to stand by and let him continue, but to call him out so he can see fault in himself.

Maybe I should have called him personally before starting this thread.

Still doesn't change the way I feel about it I don't guess.
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