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re: AU fans how would Frazier rank against your worst QBs over the past 20 years?

Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:39 pm to
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:39 pm to
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Todd should be with Cox-Cam. When given time he could produce. When he was running for his life we were shite out of luck. Him and Cox were about the same.


You're probably right. I was thinking about 2008 Todd not the surprisingly more competent 2009 version. I also want to place Neil Caudle on there to calibrate the other side of the line of demarcation. Your help would be greatly appreciated.
This post was edited on 9/12/12 at 3:41 pm
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:39 pm to
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Arron Murray sucked in the beginning, MAtthew Stafford sucked his first year and turned out alright.



I wouldn't put Frazier in the same level of suck as these guys.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:39 pm to
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He is as good as he should be after two starts.


I want to hope you're kidding but something tells me you're serious. Look what JFF did this year, AJM last year, etc
Posted by pivey14
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:39 pm to
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tkane311


What happened to that 1-year ban bet you took with cbi8 jackass?
This post was edited on 9/12/12 at 3:40 pm
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:40 pm to
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He is as good as he should be after two starts.


Are you drunk?

FYI for every 6 passes Kyle Frazier completes he throws a pick. Is that "as good as he should be?"
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:40 pm to
This post was edited on 9/12/12 at 3:48 pm
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:41 pm to
Well you want Petrino coaching at Auburn so Im not that surprised.

Tons of Au fans were asking for KF to get playing time to learn and for Au to take our lumps...well that is what is happening. We(inculding myself) were foolish to assume a brand new qb in a brand new system would just come out and light shite up...or even be halfway decent.
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:43 pm to
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We(inculding myself) were foolish to assume a brand new qb in a brand new system would just come out and light shite up...or even be halfway decent.


The guy was one of the top QBs coming out of high school. He shouldn't be this bad.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:43 pm to
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We(inculding myself) were foolish to assume a brand new qb in a brand new system would just come out and light shite up...or even be halfway decent.


So you are saying that it is foolish to expect a starting QB at an SEC school to be halfway decent at QB?


Team Wallace bitches.
This post was edited on 9/12/12 at 3:44 pm
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:44 pm to
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So you are saying that it is foolish to expect a starting QB at an SEC school to be halfway decent at QB?


He is not the only AU poster on this board who believes this.

quote:

Team Wallace bitches.




I say bring back Twitter Cam.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:46 pm to
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So you are saying that it is foolish to expect a starting QB at an SEC school to be halfway decent at QB?


What is your def. of a halfway decent QB?

I know you were anti KF from the get go but I am reserving a wait and see approach.

There is not a long list of SEC QBs that have done great to start off their careers.

with that being said, i am not drunk nor blind...he has look like a trainwreck.
Posted by LSUgators
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:50 pm to
This thread reminded me of one of my alltime favorite articles.
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:51 pm to
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What is your def. of a halfway decent QB?

I know you were anti KF from the get go but I am reserving a wait and see approach.

There is not a long list of SEC QBs that have done great to start off their careers.

with that being said, i am not drunk nor blind...he has look like a trainwreck.



He compares slightly less favorably to the man who posted this stat line as TFR in 7 games.

CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT RAT

36 73 49.3 419 5.7 4 41 1 112.9

My fond hope is that my Auburn friends don't have to live through four years of that bullshite. Either he picks up his play or he gets replaced.
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:51 pm to
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What is your def. of a halfway decent QB?



I think a halfway decent QB should be completing around 50% of his passes and about even on his touchdown to interception ratio.
This post was edited on 9/12/12 at 3:52 pm
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:54 pm to
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I think a halfway decent QB should be completing around 50% of his passes and about even on his touchdown to interception ratio.


Currently he is completing 49% of his passes with 1 TD and 4 INTs.

So he is not quite halfway decent...we should not have been surprised.
Posted by mrbroker
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:57 pm to
Your comments sound like you are trying to pump up the moral of the AU faithful with stats..If he plays bad against LaMON in the first half he will be benched
Posted by therick711
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:57 pm to
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Currently he is completing 49% of his passes with 1 TD and 4 INTs.

So he is not quite halfway decent...we should not have been surprised.


True, but his career numbers put him at a 47% passer, and dump a couple more interceptions on that total. Then there is the matter of the fumble.

All that said, he has to play better and likely will. That seemed to be a rock-bottom performance.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:58 pm to
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Your comments sound like you are trying to pump up the moral of the AU faithful with stats


Im not pumping up anyones moral...they can make up their own minds.

Posted by diddydirtyAubie
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:01 pm to
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Currently he is completing 49% of his passes with 1 TD and 4 INTs.


he probably bumped it up from 40% to 50% in garbage time on Saturday.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:02 pm to
He probably got that far down by not playing a few crap teams to stat his career as a starting QB.
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